host: republican party chairman is our guest. if you want to ask the questions, you can do so in one of many ways. if you want to call him and talk to him personally, for republicans -- if you live in the state of the florida and want to weigh in on your state politics, florida residents has a special -- have a special light you can call. journal@cspan.org is how you reach us by e-mail. talk and little bit about the activity that is going on currently in florida and light of tampa getting the republican national convention next year. guest: the convention is a big deal. it is important for florida. it is important for the rest of the country as well. this will be the 40th convention. all 50 states and six territories will participate. 45,000 people will attend beginning the week of august 27 of next year. it is the equivalent in terms of an economic impact of two or three super bowls, over $170 million. there will be 15,000 media and attendance for that. the olympics is the only thing that is larger in terms of media presence. it

she didn't leaf the republican party -- leave the republican party, the republican party left her. how accurate do you really think that is in a way? i know you talked about later the republican party took a turn to the right. but i remember talking to elly peterson in the late '60s, and she was already concerned that the nixon administration was too far to the right and too conservative. and today richard nixon probably isn't acceptable at all to modern republicanism. [laughter] so, i mean, how much did she actually change her views, or do you think she was absolutely pretty much rock solid, the same philosophical outlook and ideology from the time of larry -- [inaudible] in the late '50s all the way out until the end? >> >> no, i think she evolved, and i think clearly in the 1960s she was concerned, um, about right-wing elements in the republican party both in michigan and on the national level. and one of the reasons why she was concerned about the possibility of phyllis schlafly would become president of the national confederation of republican women. i think that the men she c

she didn't leave the republican party. party. the republican party left her.ow accurate do you really think that is? in a way i know you talk later about the republican circuit term but i remember talking to elly peterson in the late 60s and she was already concerned that the nixon administration was too far to the right into conservative. today richard nixon probably isn't acceptable about to moderate republicanism. so i mean, how much did she actually change your views or do you think she was absolutely pretty much rock solid, the same philosophical outlook and ideology from the time of larry lindenberg in the late 50s all the way up until the end? >> i think she evolves and clearly in the 1960s she was concerned about elements in the republican party both in michigan and on the national level. one of the reasons why she was concerned about the possibility of phyllis schlafly would become the president of the national republican of women. the man she championed were in their romney, rockefeller bill scranton that kind of mode and they think as she said nixon

it's a pathetic state of affairs for the republican party because tea party and republican party are days. >> mike papantonio, great to have you with us tonight. always look forward to your take. thank you. >>> the party of reagan has been hammering president obama lately calling his tax plans class warfare. but president reagan's own speeches land on the side of president obama. and we'll play you the tape. it's a dandy. >>> an important voice of the middle class is now expressing his full fledged support for the wall street protesters. the movement is spreading to other parts of the country and the message is getting louder. greed is kill the middle class. >>> and up next, ronald reagan has a lesson for republicans who accuse president obama of class warfare. ♪ ♪ ♪ when your chain of supply ♪ goes from here to shanghai, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ chips from here, boards from there ♪ ♪ track it all through the air, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ clearing customs like that ♪ hurry up no time flat that's logistics. ♪ ♪ all new technology ups brings to me, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ >>> welcome back to

the republican party did not choose the date. we have a republican majority and governor and they appointed a committee that set the date, and let's remember, the governor and house and senate were elected by floridain's. they have the authority to set the date and they did. the republicans nor did r.n.c. pick the date. host: orlando is next on the line we set aside for florida viewers. good morning. caller: good morning, america. a quick comment here. recently governor scott turned down the high-speed rail system here in central florida. if anybody's ever drove the i. 4 quarter daytona to tampa. it's a mess. and for this governor to turn down that money, so we could try straighten this out, it makes absolutely no sense. this was a bipartisan committee. republicans, democrats alike that pushed for this noun fix the system. and as far as i'm concerned, this governor gets a c-minus. so that's my comment. host: where does the rail story -- the light rail system stand? the governor did turn down the money, is that correct? guest: he d

that's had enormous impact in the republican party. verwhelming sense within the party that on whatever the question is, at this point the solution tends to be less government. rolling back the role of government. now, whether you can sell that in a general election is another question. i do not think there is a consistent ideological majority in the country for either side's view about the role of government. that last portion of the country that decides elections are looking for results that are less ideological and more pragmatic and remains to be seen whether they'll view the agenda that's clearly emerging from the republican field as one that's a pragmatic response of the things the country faces. >> we'll hear more from you. ron brownstein. thanks so much. >>> it's one of the smallest states in country with the white population at nearly 94%. new hampshire is the one place jon huntsman is campaigning. cnn is there with him when we come back. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these

it's not a great position to have in general in a republican party. julie is right. ing to get a quick test of this. part of why i'm here headed to iowa is because tomorrow night there's the six republicans speaking before the same audience of religious conservatives, social conservatives, and i think he is going to have to address it in his remarks and as he deals with reporters. there's a range of issues on which his answers are not up to snuff or normal big-time presidential candidate. i'll say, again, i'm not sure it matters right now. the people who like him like him for a range of reasons. abortion is not front and center for some republican voters right now. >> take a shot on this one. here he is talking about gitmo. he'll get to the security issue. talking about gitmo with wolf blitzer. he contradicted himself handling a hypothetical decision, the decision netanyahu had to make about getting his captive back at the choice of releasing a lot of killers. let's listen. >> can you imagine if you were president, we're almost out of time, and there was one american

>> appreciate it. >> and thanks for being crazy, as you put it, in other words, sane in the republican party next, herman cain's leading the republican field in a lot of new polls, but he can't seem to stay consistent on the issues. i can't understand this guy. i don't think he even knows anything about these issues he's talking about. we'll prove that in a moment. we'll be right back. >>> mitt romney's not conceding iowa after all. romney campaigned there yesterday. for the first time in months, saying he'd love to win there. the big question for romney is how much campaigning he does there. if he investors too deeply, a loss in iowa would be a big blow to him. but with his rivals struggling, a romney victory in iowa followed by a win in new hampshire could be a knockout punch for the former massachusetts governor. we'll be right back. exclusive to the military. and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. from free checking to credit cards to loans, our commitment to the military, vete

there's been no real attack on cain from anyone in the republican party. >> could there be, in your mind>> there will be. >> i want an honest answer. this is sodium pentathol time. could there be that the republican members are voting for him in these polls simply to say, i am not for romney, i'll name this man who is african-american, who is not a man of political background, in a cynical way. i'm just doing it as a placeholder. is that what you're really saying? otherwise, what you're saying make is no sense, because they keep voting for him. >> no, no, no. i think -- i think their love is fleeting. we saw it for trump, we saw it -- >> it's infatuation. >> yeah. the question is, who do you want to have a wild weekend with and who do you want to get hitched to? >> i love the way you do psych babb psychobabble on the right. here's herman cain in explaining himself. he's doing incredibly well, and if this was a white guy doing this and doing exactly what he was doing, you'd be saying, of course he's the front-runner. >> oh, hey, no, no, no. >> you don't trust that party. i'm not saying yo

the republican party today is in the grips of the most rigid ideological splinter we've seen, and the problem is that they don't represent the whole country. they represent the people who vote in republican primaries and that's driven all of them further right, so mitt romney, for example, is in a mode of repudiating position after position. i notice in the debate last night they quoted his having supported the -- the bush administration's efforts to deal with the financial crisis in 2008. he's now repudiating that. he of course has repudiated the health care. there has never been a time in american history when so rigidly ideologically extremist a group has controlled one of the major parties. >> and he was the sober one last night. let's look at rick santorum. i want david to get in here. rick santorum advocating basically getting rid of all corporate taxes for manufacturers. just get rid of them all. don't pay for it. just get rid of it. let's listen. >> what happened was we became uncompetitive so we need to be competitive. that's why i proposed taking the corporate tax for manufa

>> it's a title because the sums up one of the main arguments in the book is that the republican party has had a foreign policy approach that tends to be hard lined by which i mean the foreign policy to increase syria's lead the way that there are threats out there and now to the united states trying to be uncompromising in the face of those threats. that is consistent but there's also been a variety in what particular republican comes under what particular president is to make the was my next question. 67 years since the end of world war ii. there are what 67, 34 years 34 of those have had republican presidents. is there any consistency? >> amine consistency is the one i just described under the republican presence there hasn't been an isolationist president a tendency to when the hard-line approach that's been consistent. the variety has been somebody like what's a boesh xli and bush 43, jr. and two of them each with richard nixon and ronald reagan as well. >> roudebush's different from ronald reagan, etc.? >> the emphasis was on stability, prudence and caution he was trying to presi

the republican party is more

and eisenhower made it very clear that when he became president he was going to debt be the republican party in a more international direction. it stayed there. and there never was a republican president during the cold war that never really would did that >> what would you consider to be ice successes and failures? >> i think on the whole he was very successful as foreign policy president. i think he avoided unnecessary wars. multiple cases over taiwan and over china, berlin, he managed to kind of maintain a firm line systematically without actually entangling the u.s. another world war, so that was very reasonable. he also managed to strike a balance between the fiscal responsibility and the u.s. diplomatic role. the captain military spending as a percentage of gross domestic product. despite a lot of pressure be kept it there. much higher than it yesterday. almost 10%. that was the concept at the time >> what about the coups that he cut the u.s. involved in, and ron, guatemala. >> no question he was of very sort of cold war hero, ironic because one of the criticisms eyes now are not done

what you have is a republican party that can't decide what it wants to be. conservative it wants to be. it can't decide how much tea party influence there should be or how much establishment influence there should be. and so what you're watching is kind of a serious fighting through of issues that is more than just kind of surface stuff. >> i wanted to refer some new polling number in ohio. despite the president's problems with the economy, he still leads against the republican challengers across the board. the closest to him is mitt romney. what does that tell you? >> well, i would love to say it was they are fighting back. they're looking at these republicans and saying these guys aren't serious. they've been pulled so far to the right. as up, pat robertson is telling them to dial it back. you know you're in bad shape then. and they're looking at the policies and saying you are not focused on anyone but the top 1%. your policies are not going to help me. they're not going to help my family. in a state like ohio where you've had economic devastation, not jus

and they sort of define, forgive me, a bit of a fringey part of the republican party. in the ames poll they supported michele bachmann obviously and they tend to prioritize social conservative issues. in republican voting in iowa. given that, and given the influence of iowa right now, do you think it makes sense for democrats to talk about values issues? heading into a national election year and the president's re-election? values issues including social issues or do you think that talking about the economy is a way to speak to the moderates and the independents of iowa that may not feel like they're represented by that republican caucus? >> actually i think you can do both at the same time. you can talk about putting people back to work and you honor the value of work. you can talk about making sure that veterans have an opportunity which the president wants with the american jobs act, getting them an opportunity to have a job when they come back. you can talk about values and talk about them in terms of what's on the minds of most people today which is making sure peo

for some decades, a very conservative part of the republican party has been not only angry with democrats, but angry with republicans who seem to want to appease or get along with democrats. in those years where the republican party controlled not only the presidency, but both houses of congress, that activist core of the republican party felt that not enough conservative measures had been passed. host: that is what one viewer says to your earlier point about running against congress. he says "run against congress? you mean running against harry reid, don't you? --- different when harry truman was running against the so-called due nothing congress. -- do-nothing congress. guest: that is true. we have a super-committee who is empowered by law to make billions of dollars of cuts that are designed to displease both parties. unless those cuts are made, congress then will be forced to make extremely high catz to things like -- high cuts to things like the defense budget. it is basically a poison pill. we do not hear too much about it now. we have heard about the tea party activism and the take

i've got the republican party nailed down. i know the heart of the republican party. they know the heart of nut bar land. so let me just say herman cain, flavor of the week. he will not win the nomination. by the way, say all the ugly things about me when i said it about sarah palin, when i said it about perry and when i said it abiliout bachmann. the list is so long. glenn beck. i understand you hate me despite the fact i love you because i've got christ in my heart. you hate the fact that i'm always right and you're always wrong. >> oh, joe, you were doing fine. >> when do they land on the planet reality? >> when they wake up and herman cain is not the nominee and perry is not the nominee and bachmann is not the nominee. all these people that i say can't win don't win. and yet, it's like the same old story every time. your stupid websites, it's the same story. you say what you want. i'm like obey juan khan nobody bee. just strike me down and i only get stronger darth. it's getting boring. i'm going to sleep. you do the knees. >> somebody put a bee in your bonnet thi

. >> why is the republican party in basically poison for so many african-americans? >> because many african- americans have been brainwashed into not being open-minded, not even considering a conservative point of view. i have received some of the same vitriol simply because i am running for the republican nomination as a conservative. >> nevertheless, margaret, cain says if he were the nominee one- third of african-americans would vote for him. brainwash? >> he is doing well -- is book christie standard. he talks clearly and bluntly. i would like to find out if godfather pizza got any government help when it was starting out that was the result of the democratic officials. >> this is one way that he is not going to turn around of the two-thirds of african-americans who do not go for the republican party by saying they are brainwashed. he is going to lose it just that way. but he also conveniently misses a little history because there was a time when the republican party did enjoy great support from african-american community, particularly because of lincoln. signifi

>> well, listen right now, the situation beer in right now, the republican party, almost in unison here in washington, and let me make a point, the republicans out in the country, mainstream commonsense republicans, whether it's having a wealthy pay a little bit more to help balance our budget, and create jobs, doing things on jobs, the republican party out in america supports the things the president's trying to do. so you see this distance between the sort of tea party republicans here in washington, and the presidential candidates, and what americans -- >> but i'm asking about democrats. bill daley said democrats are creating frustration. they've made it impossible, nearly impossible for him to act as the chief executive. >> no, in this moment we're trying to pass the jobs act. sure there have been times when not everybody in the democratic party in washington has agreed with everything the president's done. right now you've got democrats in the senate, in the house, democratic governors and mayors standing in unison, not just with the president, but with the american people -- >> yo

when the republican party lost big? umed candidate so they're shopping around for someone else. anyone else. one difference is the timing, of course, with the caucuses and the primaries pushed up to new years. the election campaign this time is being fought out months ahead of when it was in '64. what's the same in the relentless rejection of the front-runner. the only question is whether mitt romney can lose the nomination

do you know go this is as divided as a republican party is i think you would i have seen in our in our lifetimes and you we have there are elements of this split in two thousand and eight you know the the tea party right of his own was always was a far right over the republican party the tea party and and you should not i'm not really sure the what you all call the john birch society and it used to be thought of by the same people. but all of the right wing talk show host they did not want john mccain as they're not going to you they tried very hard to stop me all right about romney to be their best chance to stop mccain and they didn't have the juice to do it that you know mccain did not win fifty percent of the vote but i want to plurality i'm going to sort of couldn't fully consolidate on one guy that's not bad now romney's in the mccain position the right wants to stop him or something but they can't pick their guy and as long as it's fractured right even though romney is the father of about most health care reform even though it's the thing that concerns hate the most and y

. >> keep in mind the state of the republican party. it was a party defeated by roosevelt in 1932. what were the republicans looking for and why was your grandfather the person they chose? >> and nobody else had run for a third term before, going back to the time of george washington. when washington stepped down, no one had even dreamed of running for a third term for the presidency. when roosevelt announced that he did, it changed the whole dynamic of what was out there. certainly looking at europe, world war ii, the autopsies were -- the nazis were going over to northern europe. the republican said, "what do we do?" herbert hoover was hoping the party would come back to him. u.s. thomas dewey of new york. u.s. senator pat from ohio this was a convention in philadelphia that went for six hours. >> and nobody had come from a business side. nobody was actually doing that except for wendell willkie. he certainly rose up and had an electric personality and magnetic energy about him >> you obviously never do your grandfather. he died at the age of 52. we will learn more about his life.

the real debate in the republican party is not between 90% of the party and the tea party. actually think the real debate is between what you might call establishment republicanism, republicanism in many ways of reagan and bush the father and now the new republicanism which you're seeing on the hill. the real question is what will the republican nominee stand for particularly in domestic policy? he going to toe the line and say no new taxes of any sort no matter what? smaller government no matter what? is that going to become the new republicanism or is it going to be something more traditional and centrist? i actually think that is a bigger question than whether the tea party dominates. it is ultimately which party does mitt romney who is the likely nominee or whoever else, which party does he ultimately embrace? >> one other thing to point out tonight. we've been talking about rick perry's style. there is a front page piece in "the wall street journal" not the "new york times" which begins to shoot holes in the texas miracle which has been the center piece of rick perry's

candidates to choose from, it's as if the republican party is waiting for the real race to begin, waitingmajor republican donor tell g ing "the new york times" this week "there's enough chatter and phone calls and static, whatever you call it in the spy business, that everyone is sitting around. there's no confusion among the main donors. no one has signed up with either major campaign in the last three weeks. ""that would be you, romney and perry. they're waiting for something better to come along because they don't think you're good enough. the republican conservative establishment is not happy. they're so unhappy they're try to draft new candidates to run against each other. the republicans are trying to find both an establishment candidate who is not mitt romney and nonestablishment candidate who is not rick perry. the party is still churning in other words. eventually it is going to have to come together behind one candidate. the party establishment and the conservatives are going to have to agree on someone. and it will happen. one way or another. because as the saying goes, democra

diplomacy could put people like that to good use. >> how does he differ from the other prominent republicans in the party at that time? who are they? >> bob taft, mr. republican from ohio, is fair to say he was the champion of the isolationist wing of the republican party. that is to say, the wind profoundly suspicious of international organizations like the u. n. suspicious of litter on the korean war. suspicious of projecting american military power around the world as opposed to building up a american defenses here at home. former president herbert hoover would have been in that camp as well. the thomas e. dewey is somebody who had morphed. from a young man, he had been an isolationist. one of the interesting things is to watch him become a committed internationalists and a champion of bipartisan foreign policy. >> given that, what is the impact of that attitude on all of his presidential bid? he runs in 1940, 1944, 1948. >> i think it was safe to say it was statesmanlike. it did not win him any votes. in 1944 there was a significant conflict between thomas e. dewey and fdr. they disagreed over the un

. >> it's a different republican party in the house of representatives. it's different. >> and from louisville, senator republican leader mitch mcconnell. >> the president is out there doing his best howard dean impersonation. he's completely out of touch. >> i'm candy crowley. and this is "state of the union." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> the remaining 39,000 u.s. troops in iraq will be out by december, the fulfillment of an obama campaign promise, the end of a war, the beginning of the unknown. >> i think that they deserve great credit. at the same time, we are now leaving iraq completely which is the number one priority of the iranians. >> another journey into the unknown is full throttle in libya now, after the brutal death of its brutal dictator, moammar gadhafi. only two days earlier, secretary of state hillary clinton was in libya, pledging support to the transitional government. her reaction to gadhafi's death caught on camera while in afghanistan went viral. >> wow. we came, we saw, he died. >> earlier, i spoke with secretary clinton,