what is the identity of the republican party as we speak right now? and is donald trump a reflection of that party? go ahead david. well, i think it's a party in search of an identity. you know, already here it's become known as call 45. where the, where? so many millions of people sort of mindlessly follow whatever. trump says of, you know, the question becomes, are there enough of those people just swing national election and we don't know the answer. yeah. okay, so let me go to jen here. i think that's very interesting because, you know, i, obviously, if trump wants the, the nomination, it's his, i mean, there, there is no competition there. but the question is, is that for in my mind is the republican leadership. i mean, they would look warm towards him during the entire part of his presidency. and since then, okay, so i mean, the to need to power lay here is the leadership on board. i mean, is kevin mccarthy, the guy in to help. ok, go ahead, jen. well, 1st of all, to suggest that, you know, trump supporters is sort of mindlessly following him. i

you said all the time, usually warmer leaders of the public party to form a chairman of the republican party. michael, still leaving the party saying, i don't know what this is anymore, but this is not the republican party. so you've got, you know, you've got his followers. but the concept that he is increasing the numbers is just to us. i mean, you look at new registration among young people to, to one democrats. you look at people leaving the republican party, i think so far when a 75000 people in arizona, former mobile jones from republican party and changed their registration to independent. you know, i might be wrong. yeah. but i can either peter can, can i want to go? because i think we're, we're kind of dancing around my original question and i should rephrase that. to be more refined here. is that you have we, we, i think we all can agree to what degree another the trump is a populace, but the republican party isn't populous that is the tension. and that's really what i'm trying to get in here. when i look at mcconnell, when i look at mccarthy, they're not populous. i mean, they're t

and it can, the republican party resolved, but because it didn't resolve it during trump presidency. go ahead, jen. well, certainly there are other republicans who would like to run on the ticket at florida. governor rhonda stanson is one of those i have heard for over a decade that kevin mccarthy is also one of their god. like you run god for the white house. and it certainly makes mcconnell was not the warm and fuzzy to president trump. but look, i recently, and this is according to sources at the r n c and the european leaders office. and so they said that any fundraising piece that goes out with a regular republican brand versus a piece that goes out with the republican brand plus donald trump's name on it, gets $4.00 to $6.00 times as many return on the fundraising dollar as, as just the republican brand act alone and no offense to michael steele, but nobody misses him. he can have a great life over at m. s. b c, where liz cheney will probably end up look at where the republican party, whether donald trump grew it. he grew the enthusiasm and he grew the voter intensity and even i

this is someone who comes up essentially through the mainstream channels of republican party lawyers. >> that's right. up until this event jeffrey clark seemed to be a standard establishment republican corporate lawyer. he'd gone to harvard undergrad, georgetown law school, joined the federal society, federal appeals court judge and joined this firm and worked on environmental issue said in the george w. bush administration justice department, goes back to private practice and comes back for the trump administration initially also in an environmental post. and it's only in the second half of 2020 that he starts to rise suddenly and has this pivotal role you've been describing. he takes over without senate confirmation in an acting capacity the civil division of the justice department and then immediately starts signing briefs to go after some of trump's innomies in court and that sort of thing, still kind of what you'd expect the trump justice department to do. and then after the election suddenly he's playing this role as the guy who's extremy interested in all these conspiracy theor

statesman or republican party generally to reallyave us, will going to have to go into the schools and the corporations and the communities and report have to be much more active people because there is power in numbers and we have a lot of numbers and said, elections do matter. sometimes less and less but they do matter partied and so i wanted to ask you, what is going on with the republican party vertically in the senate, do they not recognize what is taking place in this country. it. gingrich: i think there is a big difference, the house and republicans, largely with only a handful of exceptions understand that this is a fight to the death and that the left really wants to destroy the america we know. and the people like nancy pelosi basically is a dictator right now and is a former speaker of the house, i am stunned at how much she is violated the rules and how much she's aggravated powers and one person in the damage that is doing to the institution. so the house is a different place. have this myth of congress that we are all s

reagan revolution like i said was a culmination of what had been a decades long fight in the republican party. especially going back to world war ii but even before. and the conservatives were militants, they wanted to be harder edged they were against the new deal program long after most republicans started with dwight eisenhower given up. ronald reagan was one of them. and yet he put, he approached it with a smile and long into his presidency people like his style. it was far more conservative. it was still true to some of the foundational matters like free trade and immigration. in internationalism that is now missing from the republican party. when gingrich came along there was a desire to be more militant still. in many ways sought ronald reagan as to pragmatic and they were much more doctrinaire. it was not even about ideas as much as newt gingrich would like to say i think, it was more stylistic. it was more geared toward culture war issues as opposed to economic. for instance ronald reagan antiabortion politics was a big part of his campaign, he never did anything about it. he talked

or an executive board to make the decision for such an you know, movement that the california republican party happened while both parties disagree on who should eventually be. governor. they can all agree on one thing. most importantly, what we want is for people to vote. >> again. mail in ballots will start on august 16th and the day of the recall election is september 14th. >> in the studio. gina, when fox 40 news. >> joining us live tonight to talk about their decision not to endorse a candidate is california gop chairwoman jessica milan, patterson. jessica, thanks so much for joining us here on kron, 4 news at 8 o'clock this saturday night. >> thanks, jennifer and great to be with you to talk a little bit about yesterday. you guys were discussing possibly endorsing a candidate who i guess what was the minds said in the shift in the last 24 hours that kind of lead you to move away from endorsing one particular candidate. >> well over the last month there was a process put in place prior to that there was no for the california republican party to even engage in an what was critical was at f

standard practice for the republican party.elaine chao whose husband is the minority leader hopefully never again the majority leader she sits on multiple boards of the companies. this is standard practice for the republican party who have made a practice of getting personal wealth off their government service. there's always a tweet and thankfully always a tape. >> always a mixed tape as you said. to ron johnson on that point of being in the business of politics maybe to help out the rich and maybe get a little richer. pro publica has a piece that says the following on ron johnson's push for extra tax breaks for megadonors in the trump tax cuts confidential tax records reveal that the last-minute maneuver benefited two families more than any others in the country both with billions and both among the senator's biggest donors. the cut could deliver more than half a billion in tax savings to these two people over the eight-year life. your thoughts, dana, on ron johnson using his job to benefit his rich friends. >> joy, this is b

he emerges from the republican party, and he leads the party very successfully through the war, and in the last year of the war, he works with republicans in congress to achieve quite a bit. the most important actually was the passage of the friedman's bureau bill in 1865. this is a federal government agency. this is what southerners said, this is a federal government being overreaching, right? this is a federal government agency. its official name is bureau of refugees, freedmen, and abandoned lands. it would oversee the transition from slavery to freedom in the south. and it was there not just to protect the rights of freed people, but it was actually giving food and shelter and sometimes opening up its hospitals and sometimes schools, too, even to southern whites. right? but it was portrayed as this awful overreach by most southerners, by most southern whites as this overreach of the government that was only helping black people. actually, they were doing a whole lot of things and they ended up being identified mainly with the freed people, called the freedmen's bureau. what diz thi

statesman or the republican party generallywe're going to have to go into the schools, the corporations, the community. we're going to have to be a more active people because there is power in numbers and we have a lot of numbers. that said, elections do matter. sometimes less and less, but they do matter. so i wanted to ask you, what is going on with the republican party, particularly in the senate? do they not recognize what's taking place in this country? >> i think there's a big difference. the house republicans largely with only a handful of exceptions understand that this is a fight to the death, that the left really wants to destroy the america we know, and that people like -- i mean, nancy pelosi is basically a dctator right now. as a former speaker of the house, i'm stunned by how much she's violated the rules and how much she ease aggregated -- how much she's aggregated power to one person and how much damage that's doing to the institution. the house is a different place. in the senate, you have this myth of we're al

the republican party as the republican party is in charge of the republican party so they can't read the census and do anything. they can't do anything until they ban nish trump. he controls the party still. that campaign of his had gotten so deep into that group of people, along with all the other conspiracies that some other like dan crenshaw. >> yeah. that's it. >> i spoke with law enforcement official earlier this afternoon about the dhs school that you highlighted at the beginning of this show. you made two-point that is were interesting. in the advisory bullet, it points out not just these conspiracy theories are being pushed by domestic but also that government that are adversary to the united states are spreading theories. america's adversary recognized that these conspiracy theories -- knowingly and unknowingly are working with adversary. one other point that this law official made is really important is privately a major concern department of homeland security has is about u.s. public figures including politicians and national media figures who also amplified those same cons

they could plausibly walk over to the republican party and organize with the republicans. not that it would happen, but the key party republicans and the suicide caucus, they have nowhere ideologically to go and if you capitulate with the democrats to organize. so it's more likely that the republican caucus will be like what the democrats used to be. remember the old saying, not a member of an organized political party and i'm a democrat and that's true with the republican party and that may end up being the case. democrats have more to lose on the floor. some other things to think about, though, is that some of the ways the president is different from the antebellum period. first of all, there's press notally third force in american politics, right? it's the three-connered contests that are the most vexing and so if there were a third force like donald trump starts his own party then things could get really, really nasty, but there isn't and actually, election laws make it hard to come along and the party rules and this is inside baseball, the party rules are different. ba

they could plausibly walk over to the republican party, and organized with the republicans. not that it would happen, but they could make that credible threat. whereas tea party republicans, keith pool calls suicide caucus, they have nowhere ideologically to go. they cannot credibly say if you don't -- go with the democrats to organize. so it is more likely that the republican caucus could be like with the democrats used to be. you remember the old saying, nets true of the republican party and that could end up being the case. democrats have more to lose on the floor. some other things to think about though, is that some of the ways in which the president really differs from the antebellum period is these ways. first of all there's no third force in american politics. it is three corner contest that is the most vexing. so if there were a third force, like donald trump starts his own party, then things could get really, really nasty. but there isn't. election laws in the states make it harder to get, along the party, rules this is -- party rules are different. now back in the

the republican party in america has an outsized influence over our democracy. the senate is split 50/50. the senate democrats represent 41 million more people than senate republicans to. and the census data we saw this week, we saw that the white population is declining for the first time in history in america, while the number of multi americans have more than doubled. people who identify as being of more than one race. americans live in a country whose government is whiter and more conservative and its population, and it could become more so. and instead of changing policies are appealing to new demographics, republicans just lie. they lie to instill fear and mistrust. they like to keep people on their side. and here is the thing. the lights did work. and as such, they have consequences. unnecessary covid deaths are a consequence of those lies. the capital insurrection was a consequence of those lies. the erosion of voting rights in defense of election integrity, is a consequence of those lies. these are just three of the consequences. what lies down the line?

i think absolutely the elements of the republican party that relates to science. ong time, as a republican elected in office that i did believe in science and climate change. it was real. the coastal district that i represented in south carolina, i saw it with my own eyes. someone in the republican party would say, of modern science healing my body but i don't believe as it relates to mother earth. it is simplestic to say the republican party don't believe in it. i don't think they represent a large swath of the people that i represented in carolina. >> do you think, governor, to your point, i mention it is not monolithic in my set up. do you think sentiment on the right is good faith. does it concern you that some of it seems to be a political project. >> i think is a combination of the two. there is a natural weariness on the right. part of the independent and freedom movement is a skittish, they said so. because you said so and i am against it. it is its own thinking. that's part of the assembly that makes up the republican party. part of it is based on all the

the same cannot be at said of the republican party. indeed, republican voters made their serial abuser the president of the united states. what did you mean by that and how does this affect andrew cuomo in new york? guest: well, look, the parties have different basis. the parties have different constituencies, and those constituencies have different sets of values and concerns. in the democratic party, which obviously has liberals and feminists and people who generally speaking are more concerned about these allegations, then people in the republican party. we see this difference not only with respect to trump, what with matt gaetz, who has very serious allegations hanging over him about sex with an underage girl. i have not heard a republican say boo about that. maybe a couple have, but he still goes around the country giving speeches defending trump and january 6, and so on. in the democratic party it is different. constituencies care more about these kinds of allegations and take them more seriously. her in mind, there may be an occa

and i would say there's kind of two primary elements in today's republican party. in today's republican coalition. there is just the abject corrupt politicians, and it's more than just donald trump. you mentioned bill barr, some of the members of congress that aided donald trump in trying to kneecap the election, kneecap our republic. that is the corruption constituency, if you will. but then there is the other part. and this is probably the majority of today's republican leaders, if not the party, today. that simply face the reality that this is the constituency they created. right? all of the gerrymandering, the rigging, everything they've done with big money to secure what would otherwise be a minority party, to secure the ability to control the majority of government, that is the constituency they've created. and they can't lose it, so they will have to continue to pedal in this lane, of corruption, of authoritarianism, until it either further consolidates or until it fractures the party once and for all. but a fraction of the party will mean that donald trump h

the republican party is on a precipice. further indulge the worst among them or pull back and find a way to be a functioning political party once again? how does it end? some might say we already know the answer. but as the gop continually degrades itself further, it's clear we haven't actually seen how low they are willing to go. take a look at where we're at. the delta variant ravaging the united states because republican leaders are refusing to enact preventive measures that would save people's lives. they're blocking other people, schools, and municipaliies from taking preventative measures. why? why are republicans putting politics ahead of the health of their constituents? because they're willing to indulge and be led by the worst among them, the grossest dregs of the conservative movement has demonized medical professionals and condemned vaccinations and masks. and the rest mostly stay silent. so even though the covid vaccines were developed under a republican administration and a republican president, republicans wo

how should we -- how worried should we be as americans that the republican party -- it's not the republicanist party that's perfectly comfortable embracing domestic terrorists. >> it's something we all should be worried about. i think this is a great threat to our democracy. when you have an insurrection, people scaling walls, hitting cops with lead pipes across the side of the head and the -- almost the entire republican party has looked the other way from that, i just saw where, you know, congressman gaetz and others were calling down to make sure that the insurrectionists were properly treated at the jail they were in. i mean are you kidding me? this is the issue that's most important to you, with all of the income inequality, with all of the economic insecurity, high levels of addiction, deaths and despair, people losing their shirts. people still aren't getting vaccinated so we can get the economy back up and running, and you're taking time out of your day to call and make sure that the insurrectionists are getting treated properly. give me a break. that just shows you how disconnected

>> it's no longer the republican party that mark grew up and was part of that donald trump completelyyou see it every week. there is a parade of planes flying to mar-a-lago to beg for his endorsement, and most of his candidates are winning the election. and it says, don't be brave and go out there and cross him because you're going to get whacked. you try to look at what he is doing to liz cheney in wyoming right now. this is a party that cannot grapple with their past. and until you do that, you will not walk in the future. in 2022 in the congressional races f they are going to run these candidates, republicans will get their butts kicked, and they should. instead, they need to do what the democrats did tonight and find candidates that will work with both parties to get things done. but so far, you're not seeing them win the respect? >> yeah, mark is saying yes, jim may be correct. but texas. because there was that same defeat for trump's candidate in a texas election. how do you square the two results? >> well, the nature of the races were different, don. i think when you have a sit

republicans. not that it would happen, but they could make that credible threat. whereas tea party republicans kwhashg keith poole calls the suicide caucus, his term, not mine, they have nowhere ideologically to go. they cannot credibly say if you don't capitulate, we'll get the democrats to organize. seitz more likely that the republican caucus is going to be like the democrats used to be, you know, not a member of an organized member and that is true of the republican party and that may, in fact, end up being the case. democrats have more to lose on the floor. some other things to think about, though, some ways the present from the antebellum period, first of all, there's presently no third force in american politics. right? so it's the three-cornered contests that are the most vexing. and so if there were a third force like donald trump starts his own party, then things could get really, really nasty. but there isn't. and actually election laws in the states make it really hard for third parties to come along. and then finally the party rules, and this is a little bit inside bas

i'm not shocked by what the republican party is. i am concerned for the absolute lack of concern for humanity and the lack of integrity to continue this charade. >> it's a brutal assessment, robert gibbs, the republicans seem to be trying to prove jason johnson correct in his assessment. there's something hanging over the fact that nearly two dozen republicans couldn't bring themselves to sign on to what was in the senate a bipartisan agreement that these are heros, that there is no 'kwif indication that they were the good guys on that day. the investigation, the select committee has made clear it is going to get to the truth, that it is going to subpoena the kinds of republicans who may or may not have been involved in what jason is talking about. other democratic members of congress have made the same allegations. there will be a reckoning. the second part is will the trumpiest of american voters believe it. at some point it won't matter, if you get to the truth. if the truth is broadcast, it makes it hard for some of those people

one is the republican party is shrinking. there is a chunk of the republican party, that agrees with liz cheney. and agrees with congressman king zinger. and so i do think, that electorally, we are not in a horrible position. the other thing is we have to remember here, trump appointed judges, laughed his lawyers out of the courtroom. when they tried to go to the courts to get redress. and so we have to remember, we have this balance of power between the executive branch in the executive branch in the judicial prince. so far, on some things i don't like with the judicial branch is done. but in terms of this election, they did the right thing. and they said, you don't get anything if you don't have evidence. >> you know what, it's interesting, what's fascinating to me about, is that letter isn't and run around the, courts the reason it's in and run around the courts is that it's a soft underbelly, -- state legislators of the republican party. who are most radicalized and most for lack of better phrase, down to clown. and that'

the republicans always have discipline. they vote on strict party lines and no one deviates from it. we do not have moderate republicans. to call these democrats moderate is a misnomer. it gives them political cover. for republicans to use afghanistan, a bipartisan quagmire, to undermine infrastructure for american citizens is ridiculous. as to the last caller, the point about pushing voting rights -- pushing voting rights helps people vote regardless of whether they are independent, republican, or democrats. why do they want to suppress the vote. -- the vote? we should not be calling democrats who vote with the republican party moderates. they are not moderate anymore than the republican party. they are extreme right-wingers. host: he was referring to the budget reconciliation bill. it includes voting rights legislation as well. here are the top numbers. 300 $32 billion -- 332 billion dollars for public housing and housing affordability. $135 billion to address forest fires and carbon emissions. there is more to it, as we said. as democrats debate

butt republican party, like the democratic party has a threshold. you've got to get 60% of the votes for any one particular candidate. nobody with 24 candidates got close. perhaps somebody might have gotten 20%, 25%. so unable to secure 60%, what the state republican party said, we love them all, we just need to make sure to vote yes on the recall. >> behind the lines, behind closed doors, do they have one candidate they like, the republican party? >> party's pretty fractured. a number like elder. the conservatives are pretty organized behind him. then you've got someone like kevin faulconer, the former mayor of san diego who picks up not only some minor republicans but also independents. if i were handicapping this thing, that's a dangerous thing to do, one of those two is probably going to be near the top if not at the top. >> what if they ignore the replacement question all together. if you vote in favor of the governor why would you put someone else's name. >> vote no if you want to keep the governor in power. newsom says that's all you have to

but it does not have a unity of purpose that comes with being a smaller smaller party and the republican party does not represent a majority but because of its homogeneity religion -- for religious ideology it has a unity of purpose that the democratic party doesn't have. i think, i don't know really what the answer is with joe manchin and christensen a -- kristin sinema is. during reconstruction christians were not ardent believers in racial equality. there were a couple people who were. thaddeus stevens paul sumpter but they would say political rights does not mean you have to let the black person marry your daughter. we are talking about that. we are talking about social equality but they came to understand and people think of 14th and the 15th amendment says or most of us do anyway as these great accomplishments but they were post-partisan. the republican party had ideological interests in defending the black vote. the republican party was not viable in the south without the black vote. and the democratic party is in a similar position today to the extent that this is one of the reasons wh

>> it's no longer the republican party that mark grew up in and is part of. nald trump now completely owns this party. you see this every week. there's a parade of planes flying to mar-a-lago to beg for his endorsement. you have missouri's u.s. senate race is all about who can get trump's endorsement. and most of his candidates are winning these elections, and it says to the republicans, don't be brave. don't go out there and cross him because you're going to get whacked. you look at what he's trying to do to liz cheney as well in wyoming right now. this is just a party that cannot grapple with its past. and until you grapple with that past, you won't walk into the future. and, you know, in 2022 in these congressional races, if they're going to run these kind of candidates in these swing seats, republicans are going to get their butts kicked, and they should. instead, they need to do what the democrats did tonight and find candidates who will go to the center and work with both parties to get things done. but so far, you're not seeing the republicans kind of l

president trump while leading the republican party really built his platform on pillars of as you knowy push back to the changing demographics in this country. and that may play great with the republican base, but what does it say for the future of the gop? joining me now to discuss is amanda carpenter, political columnist. good to see you this morning. should the gop be shifting its strategy away from white rural voters given what we're seeing in terms of a changing demographic? >> i mean, of course that is an important part of the republican party's base. you shouldn't get too caught up in the demographics as the top line, but, of course, they have to find a way to grow the party in order to win in the future. catering to this rural white male elderly base has resulted in the loss of the house, the senate, and the white house. and even after losing straight elections through, the republican party has not found a way to re-imagine itself going forward. typically a party would conduct some kind of autopsy after losing the white house. that didn't happen this time. the republican party

therefore, the deradicalization of the republican party is a central task for the next decade. is president biden biden playing from a rule book in which the republican party he knows still plays by the same rules? these are his good friends from his senate days. he said recently he wants to convince republicans in the senate who know better. who are they? even mitt romney won't back the for the people act. >> yeah, what's remarkable is the jop lewis voting rights act and the voting right act itself was supported by republicans up through and until the mid-2000s. only a new phenomenon that the republicans have so thoroughly turned against democracy so as much as we sense acute crisis both on january 6th as well as today facing this crisis and this exact kind of fear that you're describing that you have, you also have to realize there's a deeper u.n. lying problem, a chronic problem of our democracies that the republican party is no longer behaving like a democratic party and as long as it continues to behave like a non-democratic political party we'll careen from crisis to cris

and so in his own way, alex jones has some veto power over public health policy in the republican party. alex jones and the fringe far-right people who booed trump at the alabama rally this weekend. so that is how you get a situation like what is happening in florida. republican governor ron desantis wants the votes and support of those hecklers. and he has treated the pandemic largely like a liberal bogeyman. last year, he lifted all covid restrictions on businesses way back in september, well before the vaccines were available. now, with the state's vaccine rate lagging behind other large states, about 59% of eligible population fully vaccinated, this disaster is raging. it's just objectively a terrible situation. hundreds of floridians dying, and governor desantis is not taking care of the citizens he represents. instead, he has been busying himself with nonsense, like shadow boxing with joe biden over the border and assuring people that florida's hospitals are, quote, open for business, which what the heck, open for business? he has displayed not one iota of the kind of normal serio

authoritarianism and overthrowing elections became more popular than some but not all but some in the republican partyng, ari is actually it is since president trump left office that the republicans have now as he pointed out taken downey guard rails that did exist while he was in the white house. you know there were a few. i wrote my book about jared kushner and ivanka trump that there were moments the bureaucracy of government did slow president trump down. they didn't stop him from his impulses but there was debates from people like mattis and rex tillerson. they slowed him down. it was the equivalent of the seven-second delay. now there is no barriers, not just between trump and crazy and authoritarian, trump running the republican party, running these states like he was running his family real estate office in new york. it is really worrying. >> yes, that goes to just how wide this support could be. professor, trump was basically late to a plot that we are now seeing more evidence of that had he hit it a little bit earlier where part of his mechanism was lying on lie and formenting final ralralli

congresswoman omar, gop leader kevin mccarthy made some comments at a tennessee republican party fund-raiseright. he was imagining the moment when the republicans take back the house and speaker nancy pelosi relinquishes her gavel to him. have a listen. >> i want you to watch nancy pelosi hand me that gavel. [ applause ] it will be hard not to hit her with it. >> a spokesman for mccarthy said that mccarthy was, quote, obviously joking about hitting nancy pelosi. congresswoman omar, i'm trying to imagine the reaction from the right if you had joked about assaulting kevin mccarthy. >> yeah. and i -- i think certainly it is really important to also point out that joking about violently attacking a woman is not funny. it's beneath anyone, especially a leader in congress, and it's something that he should be ashamed of, apologize, and his resignation should be called for by every single member of congress. >> yeah. i don't think every single member of the republican party is going to get behind that or even your party. let me talk to you both about an initiative you're working on. congresswoman s

and so in his own way, alex jones has the veto power over public health policy in the republican party. alex jones in the fringe, far-right people who booed trump at the alabama rally this weekend, that is how, you get a situation like what is happening in florida. republican governor ron desantis, wants the votes, and support of those hecklers, and he is treated the pandemic largely like a liberal bogeyman last year he liked it all covid restrictions on businesses, way before the vaccines prevailed. now that the vaccine rate is lagging behind, about 59% of the eligible population is fully vaccinated, this disaster is raging. it's objectively a terrible situation hundreds of florida indians are dying. and governor is not taking care of the citizens here represents, instead he's been busy himself a nonsense. like shadow boxing with joe biden over the, border in assuring people that florida hospitals are open for business. open for business? he has displayed, not one iota of the kind of seriousness an elected official of either party should win presiding over a disaster, a tragedy a mass

should we extend that label to the republican party? >> without question.e and, quite honestly, it's a waste of our opportunity to turn things around. the next year and a half will be incredibly crucial to see if we can put a stop to this trend. and the democrats in particular and the media in general have to face this in a way that demonstrates that they understand the seriousness of the threat. democrats can't keep playing by old rules because republicans have burned the rule book. there are no rules anymore. so pulling punches and using language that's polite isn't going to get us where we need to be. >> i have a lot more notes here about your book. if you can stay with us across a couple of minutes of commercials, we can get in a few more questions. >> i'd love to. >> great. we'll be right back with mary trump. k wi mthary trump. oltaren arthritis pain gel my husband's got his moves back. an alternative to pain pills voltaren is the first full prescription strength gel for powerful arthritis pain relief... voltaren the joy of movement language that's po

be the first president to pick up seats in the midterms because of the terrible ways that the republican partyollowed donald trump. it is criminal. guest: i appreciate your comments. the party is not monolithic. it has the support of president trump, some do not. 2022 will not be about donald trump. it is going to be about high inflation rates, the collapse of our strategy in afghanistan, our crime rates have doubled in most of big cities. have a 20 year high in illegal immigration at the border. right now, generic polling shows republicans up 6%. that will be a 20 or 30 seat pickup. my last election, i won 51-46. right now, independence art supporting my positions because they do not like what they see right now. in 2020 two, the focus will be on far left policies. we just voted on a bill yesterday, it is a bernie sanders budget. that will not be well received throughout the country. if that actually gets done and passed. host: jane, virginia, independent. caller: thank you, general, for your service. i am a retired navy nurse. the minutes that trump surrendered us to the taliban and essentia

declared the trump backed republican party annoys 15th congressional district. msnbc will continue to follow tonight's election results as they unfold. that's it for us. we will see you again tomorrow. i will see you tomorrow afternoon on 4 pm eastern. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. hi, lawrence. >> good evening nicole and thank you very much for that ohio report that is now everything i know about the ohio house races tonight. there is so much news pouring down on us that i have not been able to get to that one tonight. so, you have just taught me everything i know about it. >> the tea leaf reading is always too much leaf reading tea leaves to be read should you choose. >> we will have tea leaf time tomorrow on those election results tonight. >> have a great show. >> thank you, nicole. >> andrew cuomo is a man alone tonight. he is a politician very much alone tonight. every democrat who new yorkers have heard of, have called for new york governor andrew cuomo to resign. every democrat in the new york state congressional delegation, inc

time than or did have nit now and it is -- there's nobody whose shadow is cast more over the republican partynald reagan. he is the uber leader or he's eclipsed even, i think, in my opinion abraham lincoln as the icon of the republican party. >> well, some would argue that ronald reagan knew gingrich who you have written about and donald trump are the outsize figures of the modern republican party, would you agree with that? >> no, i absolutely agree with that. they certainly are. t gringrich and the revolution of 1984, trump in his populist revolution of four years ago. all of them represent different periods in times and philosophies of republicanism which is actually, i hate to phrase big tent, big tent of ideologies and going back to abraham lincoln and down through the ages. >> so when did you first meet ronald reagan? >> i first met ronald reagan in 1978. i was working on a campaign in new hampshire. gordon humphrey. considered by everybody at the time as a long shot and actually ended up winning over incumbent by 6,000 votes and reagan came up to campaign. it was in new hampshire. it w