the republican party has really to me we mainstream the tea party, the media allowed them to mainstreamasingly it's the proud boys who are the baseline. we just did a piece, did a segment with a couple of experts on that. they're becoming the new baseline, the thug crew and you see eric greitens embracing the idea of, you know, storming into republican homes if they're not maga enough and killing them, i guess, with a pump action shotgun and an army. your thoughts? >> so i think you've hit it right as usual, you hit it right on the head. it's like frankenstein made a monster and the monster woke up and is now destroying the village and lost control of it and that's the way it is. eric greitens is a perfect example. he's one step further than donald trump who was one step further than sarah palin and doug mastriano, the republican nominee in pennsylvania, who was at the january 6th and organized buses to go to the coup down there, he's the republican nominee for governor of pennsylvania, so we can't consider these people isolated. they're the dominant theme of a major legacy party of the

genuine so, with the republican party leadership in the parties gotta make it to their members.f behavior, i see no signs everywhere that that's gonna happen. and secondly, look ayman, comes down to the ballot. possible americans are not happy with what they're seeing, these extreme radicalize groups on the right, they vote more democrats in office, that simply the bottom line. there's a big ection coming up in november, the slot of primaries going on between now and then, that's what people should do, exercise their right to vote and get more democrats in office. because democrats, we are a big party, but we don't stand at all with any sort of behavior within our party. those are the two things i would recommend in order for anything to change. >> if you were to take marjorie taylor greene and her work, it's the extremists like her and right wing extremist that followed are in the republican party that no make up the power of the republican party. it's not people like mitch mcconnell anymore or kevin mccarthy, even though they are still the leaders technically of the republican

i am not a member of the republican party because -- i am a member of the republican party because iant to get stuff done. i absolutely believe in the more gay people they know, the more likely they are to change. i show up time and time again and there is 80% and 95% of the policies that i care about. i was out in the platform committee. there is one in 31 people that's making up those platforms. the entire state, i was unanimously elected again. the chairman of the party, matt renaulti is a close friend of mine. i know all these people. do we disagree in policies and have a heated rhetoric? do i think this is adam and idiotic move? >> it is also hateful. >> you heard me call it out. you played it earlier and you heard me call it out. it was hateful and should have never happened. it did not come up from one of our other conventions and did not go through the temporary committee. it was thrown in the last minute. here is the challenge we face. there is a lot of republicans that did not want to feel like they were softening the language with everything going on with all of the drag s

prior to the reagan revolution, the republican party were typically honest brokers. remember dwight eisenhower. he was a good man. in his letter to his brother in 1956, he said any party that says they are going to overturn or destroy social security and end unions and things like that will never be heard from again. he said their numbers are small and they are stupid. he was referring to the hunt brothers, billionaires down in texas. he was warning his brother of billionaires taking over his own party. that is what happened. so what i think the january 6, the big picture here is we are looking at the corruption of an entire political party that has been 40 years in the making. trump was just the logical outcome. host: linda has been waiting in missouri. caller: i saw you several decades ago on crossfire with tucker crossan. i wondered what your feelings on tucker carlsen are now. guest: tucker is an entertainer. he said as much in court. he has every right to say what he says commit like i do. i respect that right. i do not agree with him on politics, but he is a com

as long as that persists the republican party of reagan doesn't exist. >> what does this mean? es this mean for the republican party when you have the texas republican party platform defining homosexuality as an abnormal lifestyle choice, which it's important to note this is new, right? this is not something that was part of the 2018 or the 2020 plat platforms. >> [ inaudible ] -- more issues to -- around by to be on the wrong side of history and the current state of our globalized, civilized world. at the end of the day mutations have happened in parties before, the republicans were born out of the fractures that [ inaudible ] -- represent -- the republican party pro business, pro trade around the world and stability are going to have to find a new home somehow. right now they're becoming no party affiliations. >> so the direction, in terms of the direction, if this is something as brianna points out that's new in the texas republican party, what does it tell you about the direction the party is going in nationwide? >> well, yeah, i mean, it seems to be that there's a base of p

prior to the reagan revolution, the republican party were typically honest brokers. i remember dwight eisenhower. he was a good man. in his letter to his brother in 1956, he said any party that says they are going to overturn or destroy social security and end unions and things like that will never be heard from again. he said their numbers are small and they are stupid. he was referring to the hunt brothers, billionaires down in texas. he was warning his brother of billionaires taking over his own party. that is what happened. so what i think the january 6, the big picture here is we are looking at the corruption of an entire political party that has been 40 years in the making. trump was just the logical outcome. host: linda has been waiting in missouri. caller: i saw you several decades ago on crossfire with tucker crossan. i wondered what your feelings on tucker carlsen are now. guest: tucker is an entertainer. he said as much in court. he has every right to say what he says commit like i do. i respect that right. i do not agree with him on politics, but he is a c

so the republican reaction, the immediate reaction was reflective of the old republican party. one of republican elites. republicans saying, this cannot stand. the part where we should be concerned was one, one month later -- when, one month later, the very same people saying this cannot stand, this must be prosecuted, are shifting to saying, we must move on, this is not important, there are more important things. i'm not quite so sure what's more important than democracy in this country. and so, this is where the party is. i will say one thing -- i do think there are people -- and this is a flashback i think to what is historically happens within the republican party -- there are people who exist within the party who don't want to see? in the direction that it is. and they are in a crisis. -- don't want to see it go in the direction that it is. and they are in a crisis. it is a moment for truth telling. it is a moment for standing up. oh, soundtrack. i like that. patriotic music. save the country. but it's a moment to stand up and to be bold. i think as long as there is no obvi

party. the republicans have always been the more conservative of the two major parties, but by the time ronald reagan was ele >> c-span's washington journal, every day, we take your calls live on the heirs is on the news of the day and we discussed policy issues that impact you. coming saturday morning, a council on foreign relations senior fellow discusses president biden's upcoming visit to saudi arabia. at our spotlight on podcasts, a talk about the podcast politics and questions, which examines political institutions and ways to improve them. watch washington journal, live on saturday morning at 7:00 am eastern on c-span and join the conversation with your facebook comments, phone calls, texts and tweets. chair: -- >> next, former president donald trump joins republican lawmakers at the faith and freedom conference in nashville. then, president biden speaks to reporters about his trip to saudi arabia. after that, marking the 50th anniversary of the watergate break-in with a panel discussion on the impact and history of the pentacle scandal. >> c-span's or unfiltered view of government. we

republicans go along with this. he has made the party about nothing but donald trump used to be a republican, was pro-abortion, like the clintons, now he has changed. he has made the party entirely about him. if there was ever a semblance of policy in the party, he has eradicated it. guest: did you ever interview him as president or former president? guest: the last time i chatted with him was spring 2015. he did the usual donald trump thing. he said, you are good on tv, but you are not fair to me. he puts his hand on me and tries to impose his physical presence. he said, i am not a bad guy. he does this by a combination of intimidation and flattery. i said, you have a bondage that you do not know about. my uncle, milton goldfein. he used to work for you. milton? he is my uncle. he goes, oh my goodness, he was the best lawyer ever, none better than him. host: one quick call. joan, colorado, quick comments. caller: you have said is that there should be more accountability regarding january 6. i agree. i want to hear from nancy pelosi , th

lily, is your book atli all about what the republican party is today? excellent things i look at the reaction the democrats reaction breaking to the colors important point is one of the things the democratic leadership tend to focus on and of course the democratic party focus on is winning national elections. especiallyly winning the presidency and what this did was make a rule of vacuum at the state and local level with republicans have really taken advantage of over the last years. i think one of the critical things that has happened in the collar is actually right. republicans have been really affected networking legislation the state and olocal level. one of the really critical lessons about is for the democratic party to more of the state and local level for people to get out and focus on state and local elections because critical issues of democracy are being addressed there. john went on his calling and go ahead. good evening. what is your opinion on the progressive wing of the party? and what about berniesa sanders? do you see bernie writing aga

take back your party, america needs a strong, republican party. and a strong democratic party. >> pelosi got some flak for those comments. but at the basic, level she is right. normal, healthy democracies don't just have one party in power always. a functioning multi party democracy has to be able to empower its conservative coalition -- without fear authoritarian takeover. but as things evolve out of the normal, we are seeing a strategy being used an electoral politics where campaign try to elevate the most obnoxious, most extreme candidates -- in order to help their candidates win. the theory is to prop up in a closing candidate that so unelectable that your candidate seems like the only st. croix's, even -- to voters in the other. party an example of this is clear mccarrick souls -- mccaskill was running as a democrat in a pretty red state. she determined her best bet would be to run against a far-right congressman named todd aiken in the general election. her campaign spent nearly $2 million on an ad buy, highlighting in akins conservative cred

so i think the republican party is the republican party in crisis. reality is, as we look ahead towards 2024, donald trump is the leader of the republican party. he put people within the rnc, within their membership across the country, and those are his loyal people. he has a loyal base and they understand that. that's why they won't speak out against him. at the same time, they understand that he's toxic. while the republican party wants to move away from him, he's not going anywhere any time soon. >> eric, one person that is not looking for the approval of donald trump is ron desantis. there are reports he isn't speaking to trump, doesn't want a trump endorsement for re-election. of course, anybody with even a passing interest in politics, in america, has run across a ron desantis profile in the past two weeks. it's impossible to avoid the guy. the story line, he may be the one republican able to beat donald trump. how real do you think this is, air snik >> i think it's very real. this reminds me, if you go back to 1998, when bill clinton was presi

this is the era of jeb bush, a republican cohort, and then after 9/11 there was a demonization that drove that group into the democratic partysn't matter where people vote because ron desantis is creating essentially a republican super state where it doesn't matter how you vote, where it's controlled completely by republicans. we now have the florida supreme court backing down and saying that his congressional map that deletes black representation in the same part of florida, in central florida where they are also attacking disney and putting $2 billion on their books to pay for, they are now going to lose political representation. is there any way out when the republican party has a stranglehold? he's gone after everyone. he's gone after the tampa bay rays for daring to go against him on guns, for speaking out against him. the man is on a tear. he's gone after the special olympics. is there any way to stop against anyone who opposes him. >> joy, you asked the most important question. because for 246 years in this country, the answer to this question -- is there any way to stop this? -- that would be yes. you can stop it at

and the result iyou have politicians -- virtually the entire republican party unwilling to acknowledge science around climate change. many of these wealthy donors are deeply involved in the fossil fuel industry. you have republicans who for decades have been allowing themselves to be bribed by the tocco industry and they are still denying tobacco causes cancer. a country cannot work -- no country can work when half its politicians are being aggressively and openly and legally bribed by special interest groups. that is what we have now as a result of the supreme court. host: for viewers who have not caught or show current work and they find it? guest: i am on commercial radio stations around the country. there is a life youtube stream of it. it is live on twitter and facebook. you can get it off the iernet. we are on free speech tv. ther are lots of ways to get the ow. host: thom hamann with us taking your calls and questions kevin is up first. caller: good morning, mr. hartmann. i can understand your concern that the supreme court is going back to the original reading of the constituti

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i think that what we have seen here is the republican party that is callous, and that is not listeningas voters, not even listening to the needs and the calls of their own republican constituents. 65% of which say, we need to turn the age limit from 18 to 21. >> texas state senator roland gutierrez, thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, professor melissa murray and eddie glaude will join us next. with a little help from cvs... ...you can support your nutrition, sleep, immune system, energy...even skin. and before you know it, healthier can look a lot like...you. ♪ ♪ cvs. healthier happens together. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and g

so yes, i do believe there needs to be a reboot of of the republican party and it starts by getting back to being a party based on our values and that formula for the for the gop has always been simple. it's been opportunity. excuse me. freedom leaves the opportunity opportunity leaves a growth growth leads to progress. and when we talk about those issues. then we can have some success and so yes, i think and and what is it going to take? it's going to take a complete blowout now i can make an argument losing 63 seats in what it was at 2018. should have been a wake-up call. right didn't and and so so but i think as an also an opportunity where the system can be shocked from the outside and because the opportunity of getting new voters into primary is fairly significant. the american dream. what's the still status of the american dream? look i think the american dream is is still bright and it's hopeful and the american dream is different things for different people and the fact that a young kid from north side of san antonio who had a big head size 13 shoe when he was in the fifth grade

if you think that the channel has become a channel for the republican party. you are talking about gun control every morning. the country is in a mess. look at gas and inflation. nobody's talking about that. [indiscernible] the other thing is january 6 -- can you tell me how many people died on january 6? how many people went to the white house smart i was upset. the election was stolen. don't give me all of these things that are emotional. that is my comment. thank you. guest: that is a very good example of when somebody -- i don't know that callers opinion is based on everything that he is looked at, and what he has thought about. i am not here to talk about him as a person, but that opinion is requiring me to say, here are all the facts you want. when you put your opinion is a question like that, that is something we have seen. tucker carlsen's famous by behaving that way. when you put it as a? at the end of an opinion and say you cannot provide me information and everything you say is wrong, it is not a reasonable form of argument, and i don't care what si

i've not only moved to republican, i have an elected position in the party. >> carley: there are a lotepublicans in your county who voted for you as democrat and now deciding to vote for you as republican, which speaks to the shift we're talking about. ronny mcdaniel said this about the voter switch from blue to red. democrats are out of touch with the american peep and he will voters are flocking to the republican party in droves, american suburbs will trend red for cycles to come. do you think she has a point? absolutely. absolutely. united states can see it and this year i left the democratic party coming over to the republican party. there is a huge shift and it is one person at a time coming from the democratic party to the republican party. i am speaking to my friends shifting over right now. we will continue to leave the democratic party because policies are not working for all americans. you have to pay extreme high gas prices just to get to work, that is not going to work for the american people. we got to get back to the basics. the republican party is back to the basics and

i think that what we have seen here is the republican party that is callous, and that is not listenings of texas voters, not even listening to the needs and the calls of their own republican constituents. 65% of which say, we need to turn the age limit from 18 to 21. >> texas state senator roland gutierrez, thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, professor melissa murray and eligard will join us next. next the day of the heart attack, i was scared. i didn't know what to do. seeing my daughter have a heart attack, it shook me. aspirin helps reduce the chance of another heart attack by 31%. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. trelegy for copd. [coughing] ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze driftin' on by... ♪ if you've been playing down your copd,... ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day,... ♪ ...it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. ♪...and i'm feelin' good. ♪ no once-daily copd medicine... has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. wit

and woman who is pro choice of the republican party knows that the party is a party, that it's a party of hits in the. >> so the republican party platform and they've long adopted and accepted that shortly after the decision was announced, house speaker nancy pelosi said republicans will now look to ban abortions nationwide. >> dennis argue that's not the goal because the supreme court's ruling has already taken the federal government out of the equation in lock step with most republicans. dennis says the debate is back where it belongs with the states. this is not a national it's not a federal issue. it's a complex issue. so what is the result of the but local communities, the sensibilities of topics like this are different, alabama, that they are in california. >> and the local we can make decisions like this whether there will be backlash against republicans in the midterms remains to be seen reporting in san francisco, dan thorn. >> kron, 4 news. >> joining us now is political analyst michael yaki to discuss michael, everybody pays attention. saw this coming. was there anything abo

and the entire michigan republican party, emblematic of what we have seen in other states, including liberal and moderate republican conservatism to radical coal to some. radical colt's umph that is embodying illegal behavior and a willingness to overturn elections. this is where we are, and we better get out of it before a turns worse. >> eddie, you have republican candidates that have been disqualified by trying to get onto a ballot without proper signatures. another arrest for insurrectionists activities on january six. as michigan here become a microcosm of the american stay other public and party? is this where the republican party is trending on a national level, and we will see more of it elsewhere. >> to my mind, very much so. i want to make this point clear. using the language of coltish, maybe right, maybe accurate. part of what we have to be mindful of as we enter the political season, is that we cannot get caught up in the traditional kind of descriptions of the political horse, race right? >> there are people and opponents that are not democratic actors. if we treat them

if you think that the channel has become a channel for the republican party. you are talking about gun control every morning. the country is in a mess. look at gas and inflation. nobody's talking about that. [indiscernible] the other thing is january 6 -- can you tell me how many people died on january 6? how many people went to the white house smart i was upset. the election was stolen. don't give me all of these things that are emotional. that is my comment. thank you. guest: that is a very good example of when somebody -- i don't know that callers opinion is based on everything that he is looked at, and what he has thought about. i am not here to talk about him as a person, but that opinion is requiring me to say, here are all the facts you want. when you put your opinion is a question like that, that is something we have seen. tucker carlsen's famous by behaving that way. when you put it as a? at the end of an opinion and say you cannot provide me information and everything you say is wrong, it is not a reasonable form of argument, and i don't care what si

republicans are the pro-life party. they have been criticized for a lot of policies especially in states that do not support families. do you think rep publicans should be talking about measures that will help women bring children to term? >> i think we ought to do everything we can to help families and help promote adoption as an alternative. we ought to do everything we can to bring life into the world. that sounds really good. you have to figure out how you do it in a manner that you can pay for it and it is logical but the concept of helping builds families is important. >> a child care tax credit, or different kinds of incentives or tax breaks to help families? >> anything we can do -- not anything but i think we ought to be doing things to help promote families. it is a basic way we bring good people up in this country and so i think we ought to be supporting them and wait ought . >> are you happy with the 15 weeks law or should it be more like a texas law? >> i think every staple want to do it differently. >> as

the anti-abortion movement as an explicitly local project, a movement married to the republican party, that had to be deliberately created. it did not organically emerge. and it actually did not happen until years after roe was decided. i mean, the influential right-wing pro segregation religious leader, jerry falwell, his first antiabortion segment was not until 1978, more than five years after roe. even as late as 1980, when ronald reagan biden was no longer governor of california, he was running for president. in august 1980, reagan gave a speech to 10,000 cheering evangelicals in a dallas arena, and he talked about creationism, and the bible. he talked about how evangelical institutions ought to be able to remain racially segregated, if they wanted. that's nice. but even then, he did not mention abortion. the plan to use abortion as a right-wing political organizing tool, to try, for example, to move catholics to the republican party, to give a focal point, a policy focus, to right-wing, republican organizing against women's rights. it was a choice for them. it was a project that

so, the republican party is why we are here.mp court made its intention known over the past year. and if you need another sign this was happening, i mean, a draft of the actual decision itself, leaked for the first time in modern history. so no one could say they didn't know this was coming. now, the question is, for the other party, the democrats, what are you gonna do about it? what are you gonna do next? democratic party leadership shouldn't sugarcoat it, pretend there's a magic one they could wave, to solve this decision. there isn't. but they do need to articulate articulate a plan to fight back. and right now, i gotta say that is shockingly absent. house speaker nancy pelosi's first reaction was not a detailed plan or response to something we knew was coming. it was to read a poem among other things. house majority congressman james clyburn of south carolina, called someone infamously, the decision anticlimactic. even president biden's response, which was, you know, on national television, ultimately amounted to go vote, w

represent a seachange in the party and one of the things that is often depicted because they were called watergate babies because they were against nixon and the republicans but wanted to change the credit party, to focus on big government and want change and this is represented by people like gary hart and even a slew of new candidates who come in joined by our gore and at the state level bill clinton but they stand for a change in the party's direction and structure. the other big thing happens around 1974, the economic recession and there's a real struggle among the democratic party, new solutions to address larger problems of the economy and new ways to address the problems of the economy and they become of the watergate babies and because of their love of the tech industry and post industrial groove and solution to the party problems. >> host: the 1984 election reagan versus mondale reagan wins 49 states, the democratic party was looking to change. how did it change? >> guest: one way it changed, 1984 election, the landslide defeat was a wake-up call and group of democrats come together from a couple places, one is a group from congress, another is a

i feel like the thing of gabriel garcia, and it's what would happen to the republican party and talk icle in "the new york times, and was doing that in 2016 it's not just in miami and across the country. miami and the hot bed of globalist, the new republican party that was going to be pro-immigrant and pro-trade, and demarco used to be that jeb was for a vibrant, diverse party and when you came to the announcement in 2013 and it might have been the most diverse, political that ever asked and the cubans and venezuelans and this is what the miami republican party was and it was supposed to be the future. that has been totally up-ended there and nationally and been replaced by these thugs and these nationalists and, and far right activist, and miami that's happening in the central committee. you're waiting on the ballot and people running for secretary of state and insurrectionists and the thing that frustrates me is people who used to be in my shoes and the marco types want to make it seem like we have our crazies and our central committee and so did the democrats and the responsible pe

along the border of the rio grande valley used to be staunchly democratic, has moved towards the republican party60% i hillary clinton won by 22% and a republican wins under the same lines and follows what we've seen in that area. this is a story about texas, a story about the hispanic vote nationally, and it looms large in 2022. >> steve kornacki, thank you so much. walter, you know, you could look at those industrial -- the rust belt when it went democratic to republican. you've got to look at what's happening here. not only here, this is a massive shift, hispanics breaking republican. >> i speptsz spent a lot of time around bocachica and met both candidates and it's amazing to me to watch the hispanic vote move conservative and move towards the republicans and the democrats have got to watch that. >> it's happening all over the country. >> all right. coming up in just a few minutes, the senate judiciary committee set to hold a hearing on gun violence, and its impact on america's children. plus, more decisions from the supreme court are expected any minute now. jose diaz-balart picks up the cov

parties. there were plenty of antiabortion democrats, and there were lots of pro-choice republicans. republican governors wrote the forefront of decriminalizing of abortion in the states in the 1960s. including the governor of california, a man named ronald reagan. in 1967, ronald reagan signed into law the most liberal abortion rights bill in the country in california. so, it's not that there was not disagreement over abortion, or that there weren't strong feelings from various quarters about roe v. wade. but it was different. and specifically, it wasn't really a politics issue. it wasn't an issue that swayed election, or that was a key part of the two parties political platforms. contrary to popular belief, roe v. wade in 1973 did not spark some kind of immediate big backlash among conservatives, and evangelicals and republicans. it evolved differently, and it's important to know that today. the anti-abortion movement as an explicitly local project, a movement married to the republican party, that had to be deliberately created. it did not organically emerge. and it actually did no

nancy: you know, i supported the republican party in the past, i consider myself a republican, but iuess th with zack and losing zack and getting a glimpse of what he went through has caused me to look at everything differently, and i can't say i'm ever going to be democrat, but it's like i don't know how i can stay with a party that is now aligned with or against the rights of certain groups of people. and if those are the predominant values in the republican party, then i have a choice, either to work within the republican party to -- to support people who don't feel that way or change to democrat. hi, how are you? good to see you. i think the temperature raised about 20 degrees in the last five minutes. williams: when i drove up, chad was already there and we already had our corner staked out. i just think it's kind of funny, 'cause he looks kind of lonely over there. [ car horn ] i didn't go round up a ton of cheerleaders because i think people want to see me. maybe i might be a little overconfident. i don't know. i don't need people surrounding me, pumping me up all the time, so

parties. there were plenty of antiabortion democrats, and there were lots of pro-choice republicans. republican governors wrote the forefront of the criminalizing abortion in the states in the 1960s. including the governor of california, a man named ronald reagan. in 1967, ronald reagan signed into law the most liberal abortion rights bill in the country in california. so, it's not that there was not disagreement over abortion, or that there weren't strong feelings from various quarters about roe v. wade. but it was different. and specifically, it wasn't really a politics issue. it wasn't an issue that suede election, or that was a key part of the two parties political platforms. contrary to popular belief, roe v. wade in 1973 did not spark some kind of immediate big backlash among conservatives, and and evangelicals and republicans. it evolved differently, and it's important to know that today. the anti-abortion movement as an explicitly local project, a movement married to the republican party, that had to be deliberately created. it did not organically emerge. and it actually did

>> the republican party is inclusive so i do not -- i wouldn't have supported what they did. >> would you say that language is inclusive? >> no. >> [inaudible] >> in my role, what i try to do is i do not tell people what they ought to run on. i give them information about -- we do a lot of polls and we show people where the public is. every state has different issues. they are to run on issues that are important to them. i won in 2010 because my opponent did not talk about the economy and i did. i had a plan to change the job market in florida and he did not. that is how i won. and was not was some but he was saying in some other state. i talked about what was important to the people in florida in 2010. in 2022 there will be different issues. >> the january 6 committee has said part of the reason for why they are holding a hearing is because they want to prevent -- from happening again. i'm curious from your viewpoint to what extent -- what do you , see are the main factors that led to january 6? >> if they actually wanted to do something they would have a normally organized committee

working within the republican party the traditional vehicle of american conservatism to turn it away. from the moderate republicanism. yeah, the so-called meteors, right? and toward conservatism and so he played a big role in the early draft goldwater campaigns that culminated in 1964 in barry gold waters nomination, mr. conservatives nomination for president. on the republican ticket, ironically then the goldwater campaign, which was managed by one of the most prominent presidents of this institution locked buckley out of the campaign. so he was afraid he was afraid goldwater would be associated with national review in bill buckley. but that kind of political energy also expressed itself in his early. friendship with with ronald reagan and even you know got to the point later in his life where he was willing to intervene buckley that is in democratic primaries. or support democratic candidates including one joe lieberman for senate in connecticut in order to get rid of me too were yeah the original me tours little biker republicans. yeah. yeah. i came of age at the tail end of this.

it's where the republican party is right now. every republican needs to call this out unless they want fascism to continue to rise in their party. >> yeah. mussolini would be proud. just one question about this, isn't making terroristic threats a federal crime? i mean, why is this not -- literally, i'm a free speech, pretty much, absolutist, but this is threatening. threatening primary opponents or any republican who dares disagree with him with, you know, with a s.w.a.t. team assault that would kill them. you know, this is absolutely impermissible, and there has to be some way this can be sanctioned. this is not right. this is not acceptable in political -- this is not a legitimate political discourse, as the republican party might call it. this is a terroristic threat. >> we've had several examples. this is what they do. there is a congress member, whose name i'm notholding an ar-15 and said we had to go after the squad. then showed four democratic congresswomen, as well, basically hunting members of congress. we see it time and

has been law for 50 years and in the short term, within hours, some of these trigger laws in republican partytes are already, as we speak, limiting and almost banning abortions. then in the medium to longer term, i think there will be huge social and political repercussions because of whole generations of american women. and this is not a partisan issue if you're a young woman seeing, all of a sudden, a basic right or what you assume to be a basic right taken away by the court. i think there will be repercussions and potentially even repercussions in the form of a backlash at the polls against those who have been militating for this change for years. president biden came out quickly to talk about this and he sounded upset, he sounded angry and very emotive. he was talking about this idea of helping women reach the states, travel to states where they can potentially access, but it's not easy, as easy as that. i thought it was an impressive response, because the anger was genuine, it sort of energised him, but i found it so interesting to watch an energised president, the supposedly mighty pres

discussions will be welcomed by the republican party?rst of all, thank you, ayman, for allowing me to visit you this evening. i saw the booing going on. i watched it on tv. it did not surprise me. those are not texans. those are zealots that have taken over the republican party in texas. the majority of texans do not see the world outweigh. we are for gun safety. i am certain of that. what you saw was a problem that ordinary texans to believe in democracy are confronted with in texas, which is that these odds have taken over the republican party and the political leaders pander to them. as a consequence, the things that need happen instate, like raising the legal age from 18 to 21, a 48-hour waiting period, back on checks, safe storage, red flag laws, these are things that texans want. it ain't gonna happen as long as republican leaders are in charge because of what we saw and the booing and zealots that control the republican party in the state. >> we are still some time out from the races, but there is a new poll that shows that govern

picture of america right now, that there are, there's no distance between the trumpers and the republican partypublicans, as the president said earlier this week. i think the reality here is that democrats need to do the job of telling the story about who this republican party is. what they are about, which is that they are four guns, they don't want gun control. they are for lies, they are for suppressing peoples votes. they are for denying women and people with uterus is the right to bodily autonomy. and so if you are not painting that picture, you're the one who's going to lose. it's not just about donald trump tipping its hand and having one of the many people that he's endorsed win this primary, it's about what democrats would sorry they are telling about who this republican party is. this is gonna be really complicated race? right think about pennsylvania politics. it's a really tough state. 2016 going to donald trump. 2020 going to joe biden. if you're looking at the campaign strategy for both fetterman and oz, if you're a -- anybody that has close proximity to donald trump we're gonna h

the proud boys now control the republican party in miami-dade county. with this ideology extremists, christian nationalists, et cetera, are mainstreamed into the party. play mob games win mob prizes. the republican party is dancing with some extremely dangerous people in a bid to gain electoral power. does that fact and that fact that the justice department must be aware of, how does that factor into these indictments? do they then make that connection to the political party that used them as foot soldiers? >> well, i think that the threats and the dissension into sort of this extremist -- these extremist supporters comes from this continued anti-democratic fervor in the republican party. i thought judge luttig at the tail end he was asked to sort of sum up why he is so concerned about the future. but it was his first sentence in the statement today where he said, our democracy remains on a knife's edge. and that is exactly right. we are in an existential crisis right now about whether we're going to be a democracy going forward or whether we are going