it is already a fact that we are all facing now, so trump will be nominated by the republican party as well as a presidential candidate, because desantis was theoretically the only rival in reality. well, he is not it remains, but according to polls among republicans, that is, trump will be supported by more than 50% of average republicans in all polls, and 23% of paratroopers are the largest. well, there is such a gap here. i think that it is not unrealistic to overcome, and the point is that i will achieve it, it will be very difficult to do because trump supporters, well, they remain trump supporters and there is no need for some kind of trump number two , the more polite trump is, the person of the paratroopers , er, they need trump. - and not supporters of the injury of the republican party well , of course they are uh, too, uh, there are enough of them well probably a little less than half of the registered republicans, but uh, their sympathies can be divided between different candidates. and besides, desertis is a very right-wing politician, and republicans who adhere to such mo

i think the challenge for the republican party today the question mark for the republican party today is cannot find way back from kind of trumpian you know borders national, polity trying to reverse the 14th amendment to get rid of birthright, birthright citizenship, to go back to a different version to that earlier version. and i think you could actually profit as result for that for some of the reasons that you mentioned, which is that the republican party at its best is a party that stands aspiration. it's not about winners in society it's not about people who are rich but it's about people who are aspiring to be rich or at least aspiring to be a little richer than they are a little better off a little a little better educated. that's the sweet spot for the republican party. it's got to figure out how to get back there. and it's going to take a while. yeah, well, i couldn't agree more with what you said i have a slightly different on the nature of where we i don't think we're in as bad shape when it comes to the rank and file. the republican party as as it might be thought after t

increasing increasingly, hijacking the republican party away from its true direction and values. because as you said we, we do still see a lot of republican leaders come out and defend donald trump and endorse him. great. and you know, i talk to me those leaders behind the scenes and they don't say the same thing. and so i, i would just really like what is it, the fear of the bones happens with the pattern, but with the base even with the base but, but with, but with high, with leadership, with folks and leadership position. what they will say quietly is different than it will say publicly. i'm and i, you know, i just think it, it really gives legitimacy to his argument. when someone who it is, yes, i wonder why, why i'm hearing what he it when you speak to them behind the scenes and he and you, i'm sure you asked him ok, why are you telling me this differently in private than what you say in public? what is the answer? is it that, well, we've gotta stay on the same step as the base of donald trump. that correct? he's probably got, i don't know, maybe 20 percent. oh, super strong

itself because when the republican party, when republican party politicians are left to do their thing, look at what they do. so now here's the question, the conservative media right now today is in one of its periodic crises they just today have lopped off another one of their episodically dominant figures who for whatever reason hasn't worked out but he really is one of a string of them. there will be someone after him. and the important question aside from the gossip and the business news and all that stuff, the important question for our country is about the success of that business, the success of that industry. whether that remarkably successful industry as a whole is today at any risk of losing its zhuzh, its power, its capacity, importantly, to drag the republican party around in its wake no matter how hapless that party is and remains. that's the question. joining us now is jay rosen, a professor of journalism at new york university and longtime observer of this part of the media world. mr. rosen, i appreciate you making time to be here thank you. >> thanks for having me

, but yet, like we see today, they made much of the driving energy of the republican party at the grassroots. and barry goldwater wanted to use them to get the nomination against nelson rockefeller. a liberal mainstream republican in the 64 contest. and so he in the book i tell the story about how he conspired with william f buckley, how not to throw all the john birchers at that point out of the republican party or the polite conservative movement. buckley eventually it but initially he didn't. and he just to criticize the head of the birchers, the birch society, and allow the birchers, though, to stay on goldwater side. now, they helped him win the california primary, which gave him the gop nomination. and then he went on to this tremendous defeat against lyndon landslide defeat and all the pundits at the time, people like us all said that's it for the republican party. that's it for the far right. you know, goldwater has shown never that, you know, you know, the republican party has been decimated as has the conservative fringe extremism. two years later, who won the election in in califo

, which is about 30-40% — republican party, which is about 30-40% of the republican party, which vote, that really will allow _ anti—trump vote, that really will allow donald trump to clear the table _ allow donald trump to clear the table and — allow donald trump to clear the table and some of these early primary— table and some of these early primary states and become the front runner— primary states and become the front runner and _ primary states and become the front runnerand then primary states and become the front runner and then after that it could 'ust runner and then after that it could just be _ runner and then after that it could just be coming a rubber—stamp. a lot can happen _ just be coming a rubber—stamp. a lot can happen between now and the primaries. — can happen between now and the primaries, it is too early to speculate, just looking at the numbers— speculate, just looking at the numbers now, i think it is hard to say anyone — numbers now, i think it is hard to say anyone has a better shot. what about ron desantis _ say anyone has a better shot. what about ron

jour because they understand this the more you talk about donald trump, the worse it is for the republican partys the thing, they are stuck with the guy, aren't they? but it's still the clear and decisive front runner, republican primary for 2024. even though he got a range i federal court yesterday. they went back to florida, delivered this just unhinged nasty threatening utterl boring listless, low energ speech that did nothing to ear him a single new vote from anyone outside his die har base of supporters the republican party has still yoked themselves to hi hopelessly to the point wher even his challengers from th 2024 nomination are one up i each other to associat themselves with that spectacle mike pence who trump reportedl thought deserved the chants of hang mike pence from an arme mob still defense up to this day. ron desantis who trump smeared as a groomer, implying he acte inappropriately with young women. and girls. still issued a ridiculou statement against trump' indictment, vowing to fight as a tradition. at some, point for because going to have to face this reality. the guy is utt

and now that movement has taken over the republican party, which is why the democratic party and republican party no longer resemble each other. that's why we have such an asymmetry in our politics, which screws around with a lot of other values, norms and practices which no longer make sense, because the two parties operate in such a different way. i will add one other thing, rachel. underneath the history that you gave us, there was the rise of the american consensus, as historians call, it the postwar consensus. where the two parties roughly worked in the same way, and they had different values, they wanted to take the country in different directions, but kind of agreed on basic facts. that world is completely gone now. and conservatives, so-called, have existed in their own information sphere. not only is it separate from the mainstream media, but it needs to constantly attack the mainstream media, and it's picture of the real in order to create that power, momentum that i talked about. >> i feel like what you are describing is a system kind of zooming towards entropy. i am not sure, th

and i want the republican party to be that type of a party. - given trump and the rise of figures like marjorie taylor greene and george santos, how does the republican party find redemption? - that is a really good question. note the contrast in that language we just saw, which was quite universalist in the sense that, "i want to make life better for all people. i want to provide a ladder of opportunity for all people," versus the dominant rhetoric you see coming from the populist reactionary right, which is, "i will defend you, the us, against them." but the "them" isn't a foreign power. the them is your fellow americans on the other side of the aisle, which is an inherently, extraordinarily divisive, polarizing message. so, you know, there are a couple of paths forward. one, the most difficult, i think the least likely, unfortunately, is a competing message entering the republican marketplace of ideas that says, "no, let's turn back to that universalist message. let's turn back to that message that says we want all americans to prosper in this country." there is no us and them. it's

the folks at politico are making a strong case thi weekend that that evangelica lane of the republican partythat trump has effectively killed off the notion of the republican values for. writing in part, quote, though evangelicals were initiall skeptical of trump, he's reall gained their trust his running mate in 2016, pence, gave them permission to look past his crude remarks and his reputation for philanderin among other concerns and to embrace trump as an unlikely but effective champio of their top moral causes. with trump's election as somewhat only glancingly 4 million with the fate, evangelicals no longer rely on kate kicking a candidate theological tires, and quote so the question becomes, how could anyone russell the republican party away from trump if it doesn't work t take over trump's own lane, an it doesn't work to work in another lane traditionally americas two mai political parties have tried t be big tents with lots o different issues and values as part of thei platforms to help attract lots of different types of voters but donald trump has turned th gop into a one lane that m

party writ large — republican party party writ large is _ republican party party writ large islow ranks behind him, the harder it is for anyone, _ him, the harder it is for anyone, whether it is ron desantis or any of the other candidates to come out and directly— candidates to come out and directly criticised stop because they are criticising the entirety of the republican party— the entirety of the republican party and support. is going have — party and support. is going have an _ party and support. is going have an advantage debit rings may— have an advantage debit rings may die — have an advantage debit rings may die down a bit. maybe interesting to see our other candidates try to rest that spotlight back. another night of prayer time for donald trump, _ of prayer time for donald trump, because of his actions, dominated _ trump, because of his actions, dominated the headlines. even if it wasn't necessarily the most _ if it wasn't necessarily the most favourable light, it still was donald trump, everyone talking — was donald trump, everyone talking about him, no more oxygen—

fact that this situation can be used by trump's opponents , including his opponents within the republican party . today we mentioned that as an exception , handcuffs will not be worn , fingerprints will be taken, but there will not be this so-called behavior of a criminal when taking pictures while in handcuffs or it will have consequences for the political reputation of donald trump, you know, if the case had happened 40 years ago, he said that of course, his reputation has been completely destroyed, unfortunately, today we live in such absurd times of the post-modern post-modern era, when do you see such a phenomenon how was trump able to become president with all his dubious deeds and all his biographical distortions as a biography despite the fact that he clearly showed some signs that he is under the influence of putin's russia and none the less it did not play a role in his election, and that's why today i can say that this reputation will be completely overturned, and i can't, but i want to often from the sociological survey that i said, it's interesting that 30% of people said that this

is about 80, 85% of the republican party today.y but as i said, him enunciating and announcing and why he -- why the country shouldn't nominate donald trump versus him a more reasoned conservative is a good thing. >> you know, interestingly, you're talking about the reality of the republican party today. because on the democratic side, "the new york times" reports that democratic officials firmly believe biden is actually on solid ground, compared to his republican rivals. so, i mean, what is behind this level of optimism? >> well, i think -- i think sometimes optimism is you enunciate optimism to create optimism sometimes that's the case in political campaigns in this. i think joe biden is positioned better today than a candidate might have been in 2016. the problem for democrats today is this election is always going to be decided within 4% or 5% of the vote i would remind democrats in this, even though joe biden is probably favored against donald trump, donald trump only lost the electoral college in 2020 by 50,000 votes if 50,0

news that's not about th conservative media, news that' about the republican party keep in mind that we are a democracy, and your sex as a political party depends on people lacking your ideas an voting for them. look at what they are runnin on now, look at what they're doing and governance right now and think about the popularity of these things to the average american look at the headlines righ now. republicans voting to rollback child labor laws, lobbyist have found remarkable succes among republicans to relax regulations that prevent american children from working long hours in dangerou conditions okay, so they are crusadin tribal, child labor laws republicans in missouri vote t shut all public libraries. yes, americans sure hate libraries. republican-controlled states g after millions of american families who right now hav health insurance, becaus republicans want to take awa that health insurance from millions of american familie and leave them with nothing. that will be popular republicans fighting right now in dozens of states to loa people up with student loans they otherwise

that is something and th republican party, and my fea for the deer governor is that, frankly, it is at enough republicans any longer who are here who is a decent,, st. andrew leaves through patriotic law. so he is probably not going to do very well, but i still thin he should run for the very reason that he is showing that it is possible to be not crazy and you don't have to go dow this road. it is a choice by donald trump by millions of his supporters, to do this nothing compels them to be election deniers nothing compels them to defend a criminal they have an alternative they can come up wit alternatives that -- i hope you're standing there was a rebuke to the us to them saying that there is a alternative to their insanity. and we've heard the people lik liz cheney, other people who are not running, frankly get behind him simply on principle. that this is someone who i running on a knot trum campaign the other ones are little just mini means, running around echoing him. desantis is just another trumpian who is parity in hi nonsense, nikki haley ha broken with donald trump, th rest o

a new low that may soon be bested but at least as of today, it represents a new low in the republican party's race to the bottom. as we sit here today, a super majority of that state's republican lawmakers are poised to expel three of their colleagues from across the aisle. justin pierson, justin jones, and gloria johnson. their crime? protesting the epidemic of gun violence. in the days after a deadly mass shooting at a nashville elementary school. it is the stuff of third world tin pot dictatorships. no offense to them. apparently, the use of a bull horn without being recognized to speak is for republicans in tennessee an adequate enough reason to override the will of the voters and forcibly strip those lawmakers of their positions and deprive their constituents of their democratically elected representatives. but more shameless than that, as you can imagine, are the ways that republicans have described their own colleagues. listen to the downright serious connection made by the tennessee house speaker, a republican, without even a hint of irony. >> two of the members, representative jones

that it's frustrating about being a former republican strategists and now working against the republican party is to look at this and say, the democrats are buying into the republican talking points when it comes to buying biden. it's been a radical rather than got things done that we have not ever seen. we have a lower unemployment rate, you know, inflation is actually coming down. you know, he inherited the back of i think that, you know, one of the things that it's frustrating about being a former republican strategists and now working against the republican party is to look at this and say, the democrats are buying into the republican talking points when it comes to buying biden has been a radical rather that he has got to be done that we have not ever seen. probably i just wonder if from the point of view of what all 3 of us say, i'm just wondering if it's, you're putting too much faith in the fact that the american people as a whole will consider that trump is ultimately on the way out because he's showing such a fighter in the course of things, and these cases, as we've just seen in rec

that is now the mainstream of the republican party party. uh, you know, has, uh, is it creating a backlash? certainly is. um i, you know, as i began by i am not making any predictions but we can look right now and see that, you know, at least from where we stand now, this is not following the usual midterm patterns. uh, you see that, uh, uh, the level of enthused, as i am certainly among republicans as you would expect and in the, uh, first, in the second year of the first term of a democratic, they are riled up democratic voters are, uh, you know, it looks like, uh, as enthusiasts about it were voting now as they were in 2018. uh, and possible, you know, and so, you know, people are about potentially a presidential level, uh, turnout. so we'll see what happens. i have not pat you witness as i have not made any today you don't want to eat any more newspaper things but uh, but it does appear that at least possible that a backlash to all the is underway. well so is that hopeful maybe a little. well thank you very dana this has been has is fabu

but, that is the line that i taking of the republican party which is why you see these republican rivals grabbing o to this idea >> it is good to see thi morning, thank you for joining us, nbc news corps washingto correspondent. with me now barbara quip former united states attorne for the eastern district o michigan and, also joining us lisa rubi a former litigator and also legal analyst who has kept m posted all week. is because of lisa even no questions asked. so, thanks to both of you. barbara, i would ask a question, i have dealt with the idea tha there are a lot of allegations on he's issued by republican that this is a political prosecution. and persecution, as on trump says but, tell me about timing. because, these cases take long time. they take months, if not longe than a year. today we seem to have some space between us and the nex presidential election but in a year we will not have much does this become more politica the longer it takes? >> well, i think, ali people are going to talk about it a if it is political we have already seen such deluge of attacks. before people hav

not a one-off, only worst-case an area there are hundreds of george santos is the day in the republican partythe mos extreme of the extreme in party where the extremists hav taken over am i surprised by the grif continuing no, it is a party and a call where grift is a corporate supple >> omolara what you tell agreement was on the outs of the republican party people do not want to be associated with her, she stripped of her committe assignments, look at her now she is the kingmaker, if you will, other republican far-right, with kevin mccarthy fernand amandi, danielle moodie, jason selvig, it's always pleasure to have the interview on i think this is the first case we've had a unanimous consen on who the worst of th weakness we're making a little show history tonight, guys. thank you so much. thank you for making time fo us be sure to come back tomorro night at 9 pm eastern on msnbc congressman pat ryan, the ma who first won a specia election campaign on reproductive freedom, just because this goes codifyin medicated abortion access. i will also talk wit congresswoman mueller mcmorrow how she i

is, this part of the scales within the limits of the republican party itself, well, competitors consider it a potential competitor they need to overcome in some way, well, to stand out with something, and to stand out with something, this is contingent on issues of foreign policy , this is the question of supporting ukraine in matters of internal policy, well, the republican party will obviously criticize with bad things. and this is just the subject of criticism that you choose for this. or social or migration policy or the loss of er the loss of certain positions in the sphere of influence abroad or criticism of china well let's let's remember what's in china's affairs today yes and his peaceful initiative, if we are already talking about ukraine, then mr. blinken was critical of it, calling it actually natural, given the theses voiced in the kremlin, this position coincides with the position of ukrainian representatives of social and political life and leaders of the faction , well, in fact, very similar theses were voiced by blinkin and there i was the next day the leader of the serv

a feel the trump republican party should change its name. there was a movement they had a couple years ago to change the name with the symbol of the lion as the trump party. and that would give the non-trump republican as home. it would at least give them a place they could self-identify. i am a gun owner, i'm a responsible gun owner. many people who are out there now in this branch of the party, the dominant branch of the party, the trump party, they really like to brandish a concept of using their weapons. and i represent several times in my book there was one gentleman who said, when can we start using our guns? they don't keep them as avatars any more. it's almost as if they want to create trouble. and i also say this to my african american brothers and sisters, the one saving grace we have in this country that keeps that from happening is that law enforcement in this country is a very jealous body, all right? they're not going to side with you if you go to a walmart and you start shooting people. they're not going to side with you if yo

whereas donald trump has been relatively moderate within the republican party on those. so i think democrats really need to pay close attention to who brought to santas is, is a personality because for as much as he was sort of dragged over the finish line in his 1st given to tauriel, raised by donald trump and his team. and he was endorsed by him. he's actually not a carbon copy of donald trump. philosophically, he's probably a lot closer to scott walker or ted cruz. and if you look at how those people are performed electrically, that could make something very good for him, or it could be something very bad for him. but i think trying to depict him as a trump carbon cut out, that's going to be very difficult to sell with quite a lot of voters that joe biden is going to have to persuade. he could do it, it's totally possible. but i think it's going to be tricky. david, or the democrats taking defense seriously enough at the moment. i think they are. i think we are. i think it's a um, you know, it's interesting. lor, it brings up a, lizzie, i'm sorry, you brought up the s

right now i'd argue we don't have two functioning parties, and you and i know and talk to republicanswouldn't want him at my rehearsal dinner, but, you know, he's going to stand against the c commies who are coming through delaware it just doesn't work as a rational matter. but one of the things that we have to figure out, it seems to me, is how to convince people that donald trump is not good for the constitutional order the only thing i've come up with, and you talk about this a lot, is the republicans just have to keep losing. and i don't say that as some nutty democrat this is a lincoln insight, lincoln said all men act on incentive, and as uncomfortable as it is, we have to speak truth as we see it that's what, you know, the constitution guarantees us the right. and i think part of the reason senator graham is weeping is like most politicians, his currency is votes and the appearance of affection from the public and so he doesn't want to be contradicted he doesn't want people to think that he's not for them all together and in that complicated dynamic, somehow or another, the rep

when you look at the base of the two parties. — you look at the base of the two parties, the hardcore republicansthink that's also true in 2020, despite — think that's also true in 2020, despite the fact that joe biden was able to— despite the fact that joe biden was able to pull that one out. gn despite the fact that joe biden was able to pull that one out.— able to pull that one out. on the sub'ect of able to pull that one out. on the subject of social _ able to pull that one out. on the subject of social media, - able to pull that one out. on the subject of social media, it - able to pull that one out. on the subject of social media, it has i subject of social media, it has played a well—publicised role in the last election, and the election before that in 2016, when donald trump was elected. perhaps what is different now, though, is the ability of generative ai different now, though, is the ability of generative al to create images which are focus are very small parts of the electorate, but also may not be genuine. yes. small parts of the electorate, but also may not be genuine. yes, and that

if he is running against someone who is younger, which is where the republican party is inclined to gohe is going to have a serious issue. a lot of his own voters don't think he is up to the task. they will vote for him anyway, but it will have an impact on swing voters. >> laura, the advantages that biden joyed along -- biden enjoined before the 2020 election are no more. does biden have the energy to mount an effective presidential campaign? >> i don't know if he will be fueled by jenny's ice cream this time around. he is unlikely to be challenged in the primaries, we have two minor challenges that won't be significant for him. trump is likely to be the candidate on the others. if you have an 80-year-old versus a 76-year-old, you start talking about what we want in terms of policy priorities. >> david, he says he wants to finish the job. he has touted the achievements of his first term in the reelection campaign ad he launched. given that the house is no longer controlled by his party and come across face a type tough fight, what can he finish? >> the bipartisan infrastructure law, i

and a presidential campaign that donald trump is running for, for the republican party nomination. and donald trump based on all the latest polls is leading all other republican candidates. so we are looking at a timeframe now. and this is important of a potential trial, even if it's early next year, even if it's the middle of next year, it will be right smack in the middle of a presidential election in the united states where it is very possible that the republican nominee very possibly could be donald trump and that same person, donald trump, could be on trial for 34 felonies here in new york. at the very same time. we're seeing while we talk to footage of president trump emerging from that limousine and going up into his plane ready to fly back to florida where we expect him to speak at mar lago later on. he's so d shuttled a news conference later. we'll hear more details of what he's going to say about his clinic, pleading not guilty to those 34 felony counts in the court case in manhattan. so leaving you your earliest fast as possible after that court appearance. and so gabriel

republican party, again, is defined by. let's look at ron desantis, for instance is this guy going to somehow bring back suburban voters when he supports a six-week abortion ban? just lost the atlanta suburbs right there. buh-bye, gone. when he supports open carry, people being able to carry around an ar-15. you know, the legislature actually said no to that, but desantis supported an open carry. i mean, in his world, somebody, if they wanted to go to walmart in al fferetta, they could carr an ar-15 there, or a grocery store. it is absolutely crazy again, this war on disney. not just war on disney, but war on corporations to do what they think they need to do to make money, to make money in the free marketplace, to appeal to younger consumers. that's what they're doing. they're not trying to change the world. we -- we free marketers know that they're trying to make money he is actually the one saying, "the government needs to step in here." talk about socialist "no, no, we don't like how you're trying to make money at disne

things that is frustrating about being a former republican strategist and now working against the republican party is to look at this and say, the democrats are buying and to the republican talking points when it comes to by inviting, has been an incredible president. he has gotten things done that we have not ever seen. we have a lower, you know, want to point out rate. you know, inflation is actually coming down. you know, he inherited just a bag of rod and has made it so much better. they need to stop talking about, you know, but is he too old now he's not, he's not. he is only a couple years older than trump. trump is definitely going to be running, so you know what be grateful that you have a candidate who is so knowledgeable about the issues that are facing this country right now, facing this world right now. it's so well accepted on a global stage and you're absolutely right. keep your mouth shut. sit back and watch the republicans beat themselves up. bradley, i was wondering if, from the point of view of what all 3 of us say, i'm just wondering if it's you're putting too much faith in the

right now, i think what we see is this fracture in the republican party. it going to head in? and fox has an incredible amount of influence over that. so what i'm curious about now is, what's rupert murdoch going to do? what's his son lachlan going to do? do they want to go the tucker carlson route with somebody else? or do they want to bring fox back to a more reality-based, news-based perspective? maybe they can take tucker carlson's huge salary and hire 100 journalists. geoff: we will see. brian stelter, thanks so much for sharing your insights and your reporting with us. we appreciate it. brian: thanks. stephanie: here are the latest headlines. closing arguments began in the january 6 trial of the far right proud boys' leaders. the group's former national chair, enrique tarrio, and four lieutenants are accused of seditious conspiracy. federal prosecutors in washington argued they intended all-out war to keep then president trump in power. in turn, a defense attorney told the jury the case is built on misdirection and innuendo. jury selection is under w

thank you professor — republican party. thank you professor from _ republican party.m the - republican party. thank you professor from the harvard l republican party. thank you i professor from the harvard law school, forjoining us here on the programme as we continue our special coverage of donald trump and that courthouse in lower manhattan. we are seeing the secret service there, are seeing the secret service there, a lot of police as well. we understand 35,000 police officers have been told to be ready come across new york. you were looking at those life pictures of donald trump inside that courthouse. we did momentarily see some images of him coming out. we understand that he is expected, again to walk through the public hallway, he is in the backorders and then into the district attorney's office and then back into the motorcade, we are being told by some of our colleagues in the us that he may speak to the media for a couple of minutes and then he will, from their head to the airport back to mar—a—lago and it is believed that there is some sort of eventin belie

my my point, though, is actually a different one that the republican party had framed itself for electoral reasons to be a party that was not abolitionist party, even though it had people in it who were abolitionists. and what struck me and, you know, this these materials as well as i if not better, lincoln's concern and pressure in 1859 and 1862. other republic organs not to make abolition, not to make that a central part the way that they projected what the party was. and so that that's my point that the party made a conscious choice and leaders of the party made a conscious choice for, the republican party, to be a party against the expansion of slavery. but not a party for the elimination of slavery. it i do think it's crucial because i think it becomes very difficult to go from that position, which is a position that does acknowledge to some degree of southern rights in that context to pushing harder on the civil rights issue. and that's the point that i was making. and as read the language of a john sherman or a lyman trumbull, these members of the senate from the republican party wh

which is that the transformation of the republican party brought on tulsi gabbard. the transformation of the democratic party brought on liz cheney. democrats today have become the party of military adventurism, globalism and corporatism. there is a deep and out of touch and as spiteful to the working classes you can get. foreign wars overseas. open borders at home. in empowering big tech and massive corporations to spy on us, to censor us and sent our most important jobs to foreign countries. if the republican party can continue to make inroads with it working-class as it has in the trump era and continue to say, we are going to fight for your jobs, fight for your borders and 5-year dignity that we can truly create republican party. that is a majority party in this country for a long time. that's could require a lot of work laura and has a bit done right now. >> no, and charlie, you're looking closely at what the democrats have done.first of all to the country. wreckage as far as the eye can see. but, to themselves. it really is astounding that they have much of any

and the republican party. i mean, it's really real and certainly here in arizona, you know, can i can i make a quick comment on that? he pulled his punches as they're about q okay. the storm is the day supposed to mass murder liberal in america also known as the day of the rope which was taken from the order of the book. you know the book that timothy mcveigh the turner diaries had had used and they were supposed to hang all white liberals. they were supposed to kill all people of color. and they were supposed to sterilize the united states. and people thought january six was the storm. just why the first people in the building were wearing shirts and they thought they were going to you know, i had said this on msnbc night, there are what we call murders in there. some people in are there to kill and they are going to work their way in there. they're going to let the crowd work their way and they're going to kill or rape government officials kill, rape and, kill government officials. but this is the crazy part

ali velshi even as the race for the 202 gop presidential nominatio takes shape, future of the republican party itself an what it actually stands fo still remains unclear. that was highlighted by a pair of events this weekend attended by donald trump and other prospective candidates on friday, top republicans attended an nra convention i indianapolis just days after a pair of mass shootings in louisville an nashville push the issue of gu control back to the top of america's minds. yesterday, gop members wer actually in nashville tennesse for a private donor retrea with the future of the party was a central topic. trump gave the keynote speec there last night according to a copy of his remarks, - former president declared that older republican is gone and i it's never coming back trump defined that old republican party as a part known for starting wars, cutting social security an medicare, are offering amnesty to undocumented immigrants instead as part of his big return to the white house, h vowed to crack down on the border, pledged to vote, kee men out of women sports. and not to the current a

you could argue, the republican party's biggest microphone right now. is a supply and demand story. one of the biggest supplies has been cut off today. tucker carlson is gone, fox will figure out how to replace him, maybe they will choose a less paranoid host. but the show will go on. fox has an addicted audience, that frankly many media companies would love to have. but they do that through hyper-partisan programming that misleads and distorts the public's perception. most people don't want it. most people see through it. folks like donald fall for it, and that is what we saw in the lawsuit. i think what we see is this fraction in the republican party. what direction will it had in? fox has an influence over that. i'm curious about is what is rupert market -- rupert murdoch going to do? do they want to bring fox back to a more reality-based, news-based perspective? maybe they can take -- take tucker carlson's huge salary and higher 100 journalists. geoff: will see. brian stelter, thank you for sharing your insights and reporting with us. brian: thanks.