the republican party is very much his party. now he's going to be the 40 seven's present it to the united states. how are you feeling? well, the word of the past few weeks have been mandate the mandate to govern that the republican party feels it's received from the american people. now, i would disagree a little bit with that. i think when you look at where the boat ended up to give him this, when you do see what i feel is a sense of frustration against washington that we have seen for quite some time. but i think donald trump actually locked out by being the other choice on the ballot here. it wasn't entirely because of his strength. i think it was because people were fed up with the democrats. and because we have a do opposite here, we say we have a multi party system. we don't, we have a do up we that is very strong. and that is why the republicans got the ball the in their court this time. not entirely because trump, which giving up some brand that was um, not well positioned to win like the bush and again, rodney brand, ne

the republican party must be the party of freedom. republicans must rollback joe biden's assault on the bill of rights. freedom of speech, assembly, religion, the freedom to bear arms, the ability of the states to retain their own prerogatives, they are all essential to our society basic fabric and prosperity. the american people are the most creative and innovative in human history. these natural gifts may flourish with their freedom. they wither without it. it matters who is in charge, and as a party, we as republicans will have failed if we do not make it very clear what the consequences are of having democrats in charge. from state to state, compare the difference between republican and democrat leaders. and democrat states, families are devastated financially, for mandates and closures, having lost precious time in the classroom, kids have fallen behind. economies have been crippled by regulations and restrictions. law and order has been eliminated by leaders who embrace criminals and embolden them by disrespecting law enforcement

voters, the, the radical wing of the republican party recognize the potential in this dynamic. and decided to channel voters anger to win the 2010 mid term elections. so by the 2010 mid terms, you had an army of conservative republicans who were organizing mobilizing, and they were ready to take back the house of representatives. they were ready to try to take back the senate and they were playing at all these fears, all this kind of anger and they were arguing a lot like getting rich in the eighty's. and this party is not going far enough that they have to be more extreme in what they stood for and what they did to achieve those goals. and so lot of them, you know, if it's in 2010, they take the house back, the new always mean once it pitches, but there's been a dramatic dramatic change in who represents the republican party in congress since 2010, 2010 was a 1st tea party election was a big, very successful election for the republicans and brought in a slew of new leaders who identified in some cases explicitly with the tea party. thes

republicans. this is a trump party, not necessarily a republican party and i'm not sure how they can. busy get together moving forward with that. well, that's the big question here. but, and to you, you are the 1st to bring it up. i'm sure like the rest of you and our viewers. i'm really tired of the race card that the left always play. and i'm hoping that this was a, a, a frontal assault against this kind of race baiting that we have, the democrats and the left has been playing on us. it doesn't really matter. and that's what this election proved. it is more about a movement. and i, and again i, i, i want to close the stress, the class is playing a role in here. and that's going to be a challenge for the mag and movement moving forward. go ahead entry. no, absolutely. and you know, just to harker on the point that there, there are people who voters who only voted for donald trump, but not down valid republicans. this mound, right? so we're, we're looking at that data cuz we barely ever seen that before. so that, that actually absolute right to steve's point, that truck is one for the

the next person for the republican party. keep that coalition of black, hispanic, latino democrats, moderate republicans, couple less thing together. and i think that's going to be the real challenge for the republicans. this is a trump party, not necessarily a republican party, and i'm not sure how they can hold that together, moving forward with that. well, that's the big question here. but and to you, you are the 1st to bring it up. i'm sure like the rest of you and our viewers. i'm really tired of the race card that the left always play. and i'm hoping that this was a, a, a frontal assault against this kind of race baiting that we have, the democrats and the left has been playing on us. it doesn't really matter. and that's what this election proved. it is more about a movement. and i and again i, i want to close the stress, the class is playing a role in here. and that's going to be a challenge for the mag and movement moving forward. go ahead entry. no, absolutely. and you know, just to harker on the point that there, th

republicans. this is a trump party, not necessarily a republican party. i am not sure how they can hold that together moving forward that well, that's the big question here a bit and to you, you are the 1st to bring it up. i'm sure like the rest of you and our viewers, i'm really tired of the race card that the left always play. and i'm hoping that this was a, a, a frontal assault against this kind of race baiting that we have. the democrats and the left has been playing on us. it doesn't really matter. and that's what the selection proved. it is more about a movement. and i, and again i, i, i want to close the stress, the class is playing a role in here. and that's going to be a challenge for the mag and movement moving forward. go ahead entry. no, absolutely. and you know, just to harper on the point that there, there are people who voters who only vote for donald trump but not down valid republicans. this mound, right, so we're, we're looking at that data because we've barely ever seen that before. so that, that actually, actually, it was right to stev

the question tonight what is the republican party going to do about it? abigail adams wrote habits are formed with difficulty. we confront greatness. as a party and the people. under lincoln, are republican party preserves the union which means from our earliest days preserving the dignity of every americans like to put together in times of turmoil the greatest country in human history. we brought together for, reason and representative government. in the constitution of the united states. and never be infringed on. a fair and equitable criminal justice system. and an unprecedented way the last two years. they give them an excuse to do so. media soaked. health experts manipulated data and ignored science. doctor fauci lied repeatedly. i watched people in this country give up their freedom. they could not hold gathering some of the key about their freedom because the government told him about their freedom of religion and allow citizens to be canceled and silenced. the left not to criminalize the. when someone raises legitimate questions about any number of

those folks are no longer with us and they're no longer part of the republican party. it's no longer the party of ronald reagan. our success has more to do with substance than style. donald trump is different for style to conventional thinking, establish practice on the stablish mints. think it's just push run for president. she told america it was a dot dangerous place and he was the solution. it won him an election and to deliver it because texas install consecutive justice's an order to america to buff canister. downtown certainly has appealed to populism and he's created a right wing form populism, and it turns out had a wide cache and appeal amongst the american electorate. he lost in 2020 for many reasons and paste the position from those who argue he is a to a conservative. it doesn't matter. he's modified republican positions winning support across the board. but even the after 8 years is perhaps still too early to see if trump has them, or mega politics will sort of 5 and the republican party. if someone else can take the ingredients, donald trump provided and

you have the first commanding win that you've seen in a very long time for the republican party. for those on the outskirts they better get in line. >> harris: you heard that announcement take your seats inside the capitol now. it is such a beautiful moment that everyone can enjoy without the flying snow, ice and wind inside. not the first time we've seen it. the coldest day in history was the inauguration for ronald reagan and some decisions are being made for today. what are you watching for today, molly? we saw the arrival of lara trump seconds ago, the wife of trump's son eric. what are you watching for? >> one of the things i think is so interesting about this weekend's activities where you had inaugural balls and what we're seeing today, we're actually able to appreciate. this might seem silly. just the fashion on display. and eight years ago when everybody said that you could not accept donald trump as a legitimate president, that had all these follow-on effects saying you couldn't treat melania trump like a legitimate first lady and this beautiful person seeing what usha

trump is less concerned here with the health of the republican party, less concerned with building outtion of republican leaders, than he is with serving his narrowest interests. the republican party could wither and die and donald trump would not care provided it did not disrupt his ability to enrich himself and his family." leading off our discussion, jamel bouie. he is a columnist for the "new york times" and co-host of the podcast "unclear and present danger." e.j. dionne is also with us. he's an opinion columnist for the "washington post" and senior fellow at the brooking institution. he's also a professor of government at georgetown university. jamel, i want to begin with that point you make about here is the theoretically i guess you'd call him leader of the republican party, donald trump, who has absolutely no interest in building the republican party. >> yes. i think the immediate issue for the republican party at the very least is it just puts them in a bad political position. there will i'm sure very quickly come a time when the immediate interests of donald trump are going

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in the meantime, minutes away from the vote on who will lead the republican party in the house. it will become speaker? will it be mike johnson? does he have the vote? the first round begins shortly after noon eastern. c-span cameras are in the room. you will be able to see the conversations that happen as the vote takes place in the chamber. keep it here on c-span, online at c-span.org, or watch on the go with our free video and mobile app, c-span now. start in morristown, tennessee, a republican. scott. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to say the republicans need to quit fighting with each other to try to get something done for the people. meanwhile, the democrats keep wasting money. putting more in their pockets then they are in the american people's. they say it is what the american people want. but it's not all of the american people that are tired of their money put in think that are overseas, things like that. we all have different outlooks on that. they need to come up with an idea to make things better for all american people. not just one side. >> scott

republican liberals. yes, for independents. we've seen the one party system at work many times, and most recently in nazi germany. in soviet russia. no, thank you. i'm glad the democrats are around. now, much of my mail, these days expresses pessimism, but i received one letter recently from a lady in white plains, which seems to me to reach an all time low. she tells me that she plans to visit washington and would like a gallery pass. i will be accompanied, she says, by my unmarried daughter. and there's a dash, says she's ten years old. i know girls are marrying younger these days, but really how pessimistic can you get? this is senator campaigning.

tim: joel kaplan might be someone with the republican party ties, but the republican party he was a partf is a far cry from the trump republican party and in fact, many folks in the republican party criticize that administration now and i wonder if you think there will be any tension there, if there is tension there and if it represents a disconnect between meta platforms and the republican party of today. kurt: possibly but every party will be dealing with this, their more traditional folks might not be the maga trump candidate party that we are starting to see emerge and take off. now it's closer, right? kaplan will be closer in alignment on those types of issues, so maybe that helps, but i think the key here is really the role of mark zuckerberg. for the last four years he's been saying i want to be hands off. this policy enough is not for me. i want to focus on product and business. now he's at mar-a-lago, calling trump personally. i think that mark zuckerberg will likely handle the lion's share of the relationship with trump himself, letting kaplan deal with all the stuff on capitol

there's been so much turnover over the last eight years the question of how is the republican party goingith trumpism, that is more open in 2016. we did not know with trump and we were we going to return to the mitt romney, john mccain, commerce type of republican that was dominant for so many years? are we going to return to the tea party era that mike pence was emblematic of poor trump is in the future? i'll think it was asking that question anymore we know trump is the future of the gop. he is not going to have to contend during the second trump administration with members of congress who are out to obstruct his agenda. since trump one and 2016, 69% the housen caucus has turned or the house republican caucus has turned over most of the republicans have been elected during the trump era. everyone who opposed trump strongly to the quit because he did not see a future or have been run out of office by voters which is helped settle that question it's going to give him a lot more credibility to get his legislative agenda through on capitol hill. is not clear that is going to matter so much

you definitely now donald trump's republican party.— republican party. different characters thanjimmy carter and donald trump. i think timmy carter said the most expert in everything that happened to him growing up in the 1930s was that the house where he was raised got electricity —— jimmy carter said the most extraordinary thing. his life in some respect was 19th—century america when he was a teenager. was 19th-century america when he was a teenager.— he was a teenager. absolutely ri . ht, he was a teenager. absolutely right. and _ he was a teenager. absolutely right, and donald _ he was a teenager. absolutely right, and donald trump - he was a teenager. absolutely| right, and donald trump railing against electricity today in his press conference, in one of those moments where he riffs, talking about how gas fires are much better than electric fires and they look nicer and all that kind of stuff that we got used to in his first term. one of the things i think it's different this time around the christian, is that if you remember at the beginning of don

a lot of us respect the republican party. the republican party has become a much bigger party. it's become a party for the worker. if you look at all of the union about i got when i say, it's all of us together. it's a whole thing. we won the teamsters would agree with the autoworkers. we are all heavily union and non- union states we won by a lot. florida is an example we won by millions at the highest we've ever got. it's been a great period of time. >> global leaders have called you as well. still no call with putin. is that day one or week one problem? >> he wants to meet. president sheik, without a lot of communication. with a lot of meeting set up with a lot of people but some have come but i'd rather wait until after the 20th. >> me with putin or meet with president sheik do you want to have some kind of a summit or do they want to come here? >> to be determined. but president putin wants to meet. he has said that even publicly. with get that were over with. that is a bloodied mass. soldiers are being killed by the millions. i looked at some very graphic pictures yesterd

the republican party of reagan, or roaming, or bush, all the new is trump. and his brand, the republican politics could dominate several more election cycles, particularly if they continue to be successful. alan fisher, i'll just eat a washington solemnly swear. i have donald trump's integration on mondays. thousands of protesters failed the streets of the us capital bank holding it the people's launch demonstrations are concerned about what trumps next presidency may mean for women. migraines, refugees, it's on 100 reports now from washington. and this is the new phase is the resistance in america. this is the people's march thousands. the organizers say tens of thousands of demonstrators are here, and they're here for different causes, abortion rights, l g, b, t rights, human rights. but they're all united in opposing. the trump administration is modeled on the women's march in 2016 when more than a 1000000 people march here in washington, dc. and in a number of other cities against the 1st and not the ration of donald trump. what it was a 45th president. n

san francisco's harmeet dhillon, a former vice chairperson of the california republican party and a national committeewoman of the republican national committee for california, has been nominated as assistant attorney general for civil rights at the justice department. dhillon responded to the nomination on x, writing, quote, i'm extremely honored by president trump's nomination to assist our nation's civil rights agenda. it has been my dream to be able to serve our great country, and i am so excited to be a part of an incredible team of lawyers led by pam bondi. mr. trump describes kimberly guilfoyle as a close friend and ally. she's been named u.s. ambassador to greece. guilfoyle and donald trump jr reportedly became engaged more than two years ago, though the two have not been seen publicly together in months. guilfoyle is the former assistant da in san francisco, as well as the former wife of gavin newsom when he was mayor. mr. trump continues to reiterate his pro cryptocurrency stance. he reiterated plans to create a u.s. bitcoin strategic reserve. bitcoin has seen major gains since his

monday house speaker mike johnson, steve scalise and tom emmer along with other republican leaders will speakt the annual partyretreat at the trump golf club in miami. watch at 3:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. later, trump is expected to address the republican conference at 5:00 p.m. eastern and that will also be on c-span, c-span now, and c-span.org. this week on the c-span networks, the houses out as house republicans hold their annual retreat. the senate will be in session as they continue to hold hearings for several of president trump's cabinet nominees, including rfk jr., his nominee for health and human services secretary. he will appear before the senate finance committee wednesday and the senate health, education, labor and committee thursday. also thursday, cash patel testifies before theenate judiciary as he seeks become fbi director. and tulsi gabbard, the nominee for director of national intelligence, will appear before the senate intelligence committee. watch this week on the c-span networks, or on c-span nowou free mobile video app. and go to c-span.org for scheduling information or to watch live or

the republican party has claimed to be the party of law and order. back the blue however many lawmakers silenced a refusal to push back against donald trump's actions making it incredibly hard. many of the officers that were brutally assaulted that they are the same officers who protect the donald trump on monday. think about that for a minute. just sit with that for a minute. the same people that donald trump sent to a to attack or the same people that made sure he was safe on monday. in the same officers who protect members of congress every day to include the speaker of the house mike johnson. he has a security detail. mike johnson security detail more time with him than they do their own families. these republican members that are scared or whatever the courage to speak out against what donald trump has done as the congresswoman said it's not good enough. that's what i wanted to make sure that i said to be the all talk off the top of my head. i'm upset after four years of us and sergeant anil who is not here right now he would love to be here rig

and we know that elon musk now controls essentially the republican party. and they're talking about things like eliminating the department of education. so i think mike johnson has completely bought in to the elon musk agenda, which is essentially huge task cuts for elon musk and his friends. that's what the fight in this congress will be. it will be against the billionaires, against elon musk and donald trump trying to do everything in his power to enrich his friends. >> i get a lot of questions from folks on my little social media. i ask, what's on their minds. the last couple of questions i have is, do democrats have a plan? what will democrats do? it sounds like they will work with republicans where it makes sense, but i'm looking to see where republicans have said it makes sense to work with y'all. >> i don't think there is a lot of places where it will make sense. at the end of the day, republicans want to have more security. what does it mean? it means mass deportations. it means children in camps. it means not having any pathways to work permits for

you know, you've got nine people out of 219 trying to stop the overwhelming will of the republican party. these voters didn't go to the polls. and, and, and specifically bifurcate their votes to put republicans in to stop or 77 or 77 million of them. >> i have no idea what they were thinking. >> this is nothing. we've been watching this go on for at least a decade now, to some degree. so the fact that we have this group of recalcitrant members, it's always the freedom caucus, it's always them. and i don't know what they want. by the way, you you brought up ideology. you're right. that speaker johnson is very conservative. maybe never a more conservative speaker. and a lot of these guys, too. it's not about ideology, but they never want to be outflanked. you know, they always want to be to the right of the right. and so they're making a point that i'm the most conservative guy in the room. see, look what i just did. this is what they're doing. and by the way, the lamp post analogy, i mean, the speaker peeing on the lamppost. yeah, well, peeing on the peeing on the lamppost. well, the lamp

and need to understand that this republican party still has divisions within it. and look, i think it's a healthy thing for there to be critics within a party. i think that's actually a perfectly fine thing to do because especially where we're at a time right now, we're, most americans don't want to affiliate with either of the major to parties in more and more our affiliating is independent or just calling themselves centrist or politically homeless. but back to that question, how does the republican party move forward from here? anybody to call themselves the republican, have to take this day by day? you know, president trump has laid out the most ambitious agenda that i think i've, i've heard of in modern presidential history. so, and i've studied extensively, i just am very concerned about the norms and the establishment of our institutions . i have great faith in them, but the erosion of certain things that are sort of in shined and in our article, but our documents that we do have a living document, the constitution. but our founding fathers had a

i'm part of the republican party. i studied theory a lot and part of the republican party that is think the best revenge is the one on november 5 let's not set off tit-for-tat chain reaction traditionally, conservatives are the adults in the room. let's stay that way. it is alarming. it is alarming on both sides to see the breakdown in the federal system. whether it was during trump with sanctuary cities we are not going to enforce the law. in the state of texas feel as though they have to enforce their own border. we've got to get back to this idea that the federal system does work. >> everyone please join me in thanking him. [applause] [background noises] [laughter] [background noises] movement. >> hello and good evening. my name is

we know elon musk essentially controls the republican party. they are talking about eliminating things like the department of education. so i think mike johnson has bought in to this and it is huge for elon musk and his billionaire friends. this fight will be against the billionaires, elon musk and donald trump trying to do everything in his power to enrich his friends. >> i get a lot of questions from my friends on social media and the number one question i've gotten over the last couple of days is, do democrats have a plan and what will democrats do? it seems like you are looking to work with them but i'm looking to see where they say it will make sense to work with y'all. >> at the end of the day republican say they want to have more security, but what does that mean? it means mass deportation, families and camps. the republicans idea of bipartisanship is that we get everything we want, you get nothing and by the way we are going to cut your benefits, redistribute that wealth and give it to billionaires. we've got to be ready to fight like h

abraham lincoln created the republican party. he had to combine people who were immigrant and anti-immigrant into one party. the know nothings in the german immigrants had to be in the same party. so there's always tension within a party. but what we know from other countries is that if you're going to create a working-class party which is what donald trump is doing, you have to lean into that realignment, which means that whether it is h-1b visas or not, you have to have a much more restrictive immigration policy than what you had before. if he is going to give the old guard, a libertarian guard the visas he has to be , even tougher on the other aspects, because the new voters he got are working-class voters who want action on their issues, and that includes shutting down the border, having a tight labor market, and real growing wages for the lower middle class and the middle class. you can't do that with a loose immigration policy. host: you mentioned obama in 2008 to 2010. are there other places where you see realignment possib

the republican party has surrendered its ideological core. when a party doesn't have a guiding philosophy it becomes nothing more than a mob. most of the reporting shows there's five factions, five factions, and the house gop conference right now making demands on the next speaker with a one-vote margin to hold onto that leadership. there's a good chance that mike johnson does win the votes maybe on the first or second or third vote, i don't think they will put trump in a position of not being able to have his election certified. what i will say is we've never, the last 150 years of republican party history, entered into a scenario where the leader is this weak. the chances of him survive in the first round of votes of substantive policy diminished by the day as tom massie and others exert their power, their leverage, people wake up and realize any one-vote. there is a nine vote number of members who had to vote october throw the speaker but he needs every single vote with a one- vote margin. it's a precarious position to have in the house of

. >> you said there is a small faction of the republican party that is rabid about deporting legal immigrants. what does america lose if that faction prevails? >> it would cease to be america. it is not complicated. >> reporter: as the inevitable legal battles begin, what does former speaker newt gingrich say now? >> firing line with margaret hoover is made possible in part by robert graneri, peter and mary calico. by the following. corporate funding is provided by stephens inc. >> speaker newt gingrich, welcome back to firing line. >> glad to be here. >> you have produced a new documentary for pbs entitled "journey to america" which extols the virtues of legal immigration. you have said about the issue that we need to have a reset in our conversations about legal immigration in this country. why is that? >> well, callista and decided to do it because her grandmother came through ellis island. it is important that we not confuse opposition to illegal immigration to immigration. we are a nation of immigrants. our most famous current richest man in the world elon musk is a south african who in

there's been so much turnover over the past eight years the question of how is a republican party going to deal with maga. and are we going to return to a mitt romney, john mccain type of republican that was dominant so many years and return to a tea party era or is trumpism the future? no one is canning that question anymore. now we know trump is the future of the g.o.p. he's not going to have to contend in the second trump administration with members of congress out to deinstruct his agenda. since trump won in 2016, 60% of the house caucus, the house republican caucus has turned over which means most of the republicans in office now have been elected during the trump era. everyone who opposed trump strongly has either quit because they didn't see a future or run out of office by voters and helps settle that question. that's going to give him more credibility to give his legislative adefenda through capitol hill. it's not clear it will matter that much. and from the early days of the trump administration, he's not going into office with a legislative agenda but an executive agenda. tha

to the hill trump will be on capitol hill with the invitation of senate republican leadership and comes as trump pushes the partye reconciliation package instead of breaking it up into two smaller bills. joining us now politics reporter for the online news site reese norman. you've done some reporting around the chatter of is it one bill, is it two bills. talk about how it coalesced around one bill and all the stuff they're going to try to shove into it. >> basically, the house just doesn't have the ability it seems like to pass two bills at the moment. and there's also some confusion -- i mean trump realized that, mike johnson's really been pushing they want one bill. so sunday and monday morning it seemed like this is going to be one bill. trump then kind of threw some confusion at it saying he's open to two bills now. now there's people who don't know what trump wants. the house knows it's going to be difficult to pass two bills. the senate thinks we need to get wins on the board now, let's do the tax stuff. >> i think those of us who have covered trump for many years now when you see him say if it's one bill

. >> his enemies within the republican party are adios, amigos. and i think, you know, in an era in which, you know, people basically fill out the same party up and down the ballot, i think it's a fair point to say that the republicans would not have the majority if not for donald trump. and more than that, you know, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens not three months down the line, but more like six, nine, 12 months down the line. when this honeymoon period starts to wear off a little bit. >> that's a long time to have a honeymoon, especially for donald trump. >> it lasted about two weeks back in 2017, so we'll just have to wait and see whether or not the power that trump really has within the gop right now is able to sustain itself for the. for mike johnson, he better hope it does, because as you were mentioning at the top, he has the narrowest majority going into a first session since 1917, when you have to go back before pretty much anyone in the united states who's currently living was still alive. you are in a very, very hi

what say you about this current tjte-@-tjte with the republican party apparatus? just a test of mike johnson. this is also a test of donald trump's sway on the hill. because he said he would call folks on johnson's behalf, johnson said there was not anyone the donald trump needed to lean on. there is some reporting, nbc news is not reporting this, but from's mother alice is a the president-elect that actually pick up the phone and calls the members. so donald trump is also, his influence is not on the line here, but it is definitely a point of contention. >> look, this is not the first time he is waiting for a failed speaker. you'll recall after kevin mccarthy was deposed. this is the most fraction i have seen the republican congress in my years in working gop politics. it is never been this chaotic. and the reason why, the republican party has basically surrendered its ideological core. and at that point, when the party does not have a guiding philosophy, it becomes nothing more than a mob. most reporting shows there were at least five actions in the house gop co