republican party. republicans don't do anything for anybody. social security was discovered by democrats sick leave, all these things were discovered by democrats. host: another republican, go ahead, edward. caller: i wanted this directed to mr. israel who was on before, but, he spoke about the border being closed. that is contrary to what i am seeing as i understand it, he told me what percentage of people, when they are -- for 40 or 50 years. it is a problem. what i need to get something that works. host: this is an editorial in the wall street journal written by david --

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america and are they willing to let everything else, everything else be handed over to the republican party? republican party isn't going to forgive one penny of your student loans. >> no, they won't. >> so there's this very peculiar notion that i guess you can determine in polls, democratic voters, there's a group of democratic voters that are purely transactional, purely. you forgive my student loans and i vote for you and if you don't, i don't care who's on the supreme court and i don't care who any of the federal judges are anywhere ever and i don't care about anyone else. you know who doesn't vote like that? >> republicans. >> republicans, ever. you make the republicans get promises. the promises are not ever delivered except the tax cut promise. they don't deliver any other ones. republican voters say, when do you want me to vote again for a republican who will not build the wall, but i'm going to vote for that person because their votes actually are not transactional in the way that we are assuming that student loan vote is. >> i would argue, we are out of time, one of the reasons republicans ge

republican party? >> well, i would say that the republican party -- moderates are unicorns in the republican party theseparty is run by the marjorie taylor greenes and the qanon main streamers. just look at the way republicans behaved during the judge jackson hearings. this has become who the republican party is. so, for those handful of moderates who are still out there, god bless them. but we need to face the reality of who the gop actually is. but i want to caution my democratic friends about some of these culture issues, particularly concerning kids and schools. republicans know that going after the culture wars in schools and using children and using parental issues -- you have the covid moms -- this is a very poignant and pertinent issue. democrats are losing in the swing districts on these issues because they feel as though the democratic party has swung too far to the left. they cannot ignore this. you look in places like pennsylvania, which is an important swing state, where you have republicans that are out registering, converting democrats 4-1 back to republican versus democrats getting repub

republican party is now a personality cult. shingle knocker, thank you for reporting. as donald trump maintains inexplicably his grip on the republican party, his foot soldiers are falling asleep. republican senator rick scott, also the chairman of the republican national senatorial committee recently released ordinary magazine calls and ultra maga agenda for the midterm elections. it's 11 point plan that reads like a trumpian fever dream. scott introduces his proposal on this letter to americans writing, quote, the militant left no controls the entire federal government, the news media, academia, hollywood, and most corporate boardrooms, but they want more. they're redefining american silencing their opponents. he goes on to the some of the things they plan to change or destroy, including american history, patriotism, border security, the nuclear, family, traditional miley, capitalism. his ideas are perhaps even wilder than his words, he proposes getting virus by 50%, while requiring a minimum income tax on all americans. he also recommends that all federal legislation expire in five years, even social security, medicare, medicaid,

so i, you know, i think, i think it's thrown a bit of a wild card into the republican party republican party because president trump was a big fan. and so, you know, i think so trumpet, trump put on the fierce a sanctions on russia during his tenure to me. i mean, he, but he also said complimentary things about putin as a leader. yeah. so how far do you think individuals, way of processing history, you're talking about putin themselves work your academic field because i thought that that kind of fashion of thomas carlyle. we lost the hatch or maybe 50 years ago or more? no, i think you're right. i think i think that the tendency in social sciences definitely to down play the role of leaders, you know, and i think it's difficult. i don't think we have a really good sense of the extent to which puts in is kind of reflecting a more general russian sort of position. but that's sort of why i said, we don't really know how popular or unpopular this is. you know. sure, thousands of people are protesting because 150000000 russians, you know, so, so, so, so what does the average russian think a

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is this bo tells us that the republican party is no longer the republican party of reagan, of bush or of any president before. this is a tea party type of republican party. and one can see that and just the ideology of where the republican party is going. if you think about an issue such as reproductive rights, which is an issue that's under attack now, robi wade was a $72.00 opinion. 5 of those justices of the 7 were republican appointed justice blackman who wrote the opinion and wrote the weight was put in the court by richard nixon. i'm a card carrying member who is republican and so you see the ideologies and principles and values of the party actually changing. and we see now it's less of a reagan party and it is more of a jesse helms party and jesse holmes, his record speaks for itself with justice jackson to be justice jackson on the bench. now it is still a conservative majority. there is a lot of concern in the united states now about roe vs wade, but you just brought up. how likely is it that the supreme court will overturn roe vs wade in the coming months? well, we don't know exactly, but many people are quite worried as they should be.

is this bo tells us that the republican party is no longer the republican party of reagan, of bush or of any president before. this is a tea party type of republican party. and one can see that and just the ideology of where the republican party is going. if you think about an issue such as reproductive rights, which is an issue that's under attack now, rosie wade was a $72.00 opinion. 5 of those justices of the 7 were republican appointed justice blackman who wrote the opinion and wrote me wade was put in the court by richard nixon. i'm a card carrying member who is republican and so you see the ideologies and principles and values of the party actually changing. and we see now it's less of a reagan party and it is more of a jesse helms party and jesse holmes, his record speaks for itself with justice jackson to be justice jackson on the bench. now it is still a conservative majority. there is a lot of concern in the united states now about roe vs wade, but you just brought up. how likely is it that the supreme court will overturn roe vs wade in the coming months? well, we don't know exactly, but many people are quite worried as they should be. s

in the republican party, including republican party of donald trump. well, anyway, i in 1978 the primaries in september. we barely won the primary fifty three percent and i you know, we're gonna lose. because what had happened well. he had gone through a messy divorce. and his daughters sided with their mother and and became sources for the boston globe. i mean it was it was ugly. and in retrospect there was a senate ethics probe. there's a question about medicaid funds, you know pooling. anyway, there are a bunch of sort of. financial issues and the you have to remember the thing about ed brooke was he was not an ordinary politician. you know in 1960 1964. when winning johnson carried, massachusetts by over a million votes and had brooke was elected attorney general by like 700,000 votes. i mean the biggest tickets putting in the history of the state ed brooke made people feel good. about the process and about themselves for electing and african-american to the senate the first since reconstruction the first popular elected. african-american in the sen

republican party. it was a republican party that really was mitt romney. now it's a party of madison call thorn. i think at the time he was thinking of himself as a republicanunfortunately he decided his ambitions lay in being the next donald trump, and i think that's sad for the republican party, sad for the state of ohio. >> how likely is his victory on tuesday in the primary. >> the polls look very good for him. even though his internal polls showed him down in fifth place show him in first place. this is a primary where you have a lot of voters loyal to trump, and in a multicandidate race, that's probably going to be enough to win the primary. >> interesting. running over on time, but we do appreciate lebowski's reference. and might also remember walter was shomas shabbas, which is a belief system. >> that is true. >> good to see you. coming up, we welcome back michelle goldberg from "the new york times" on book burning and more. >>> plus, fact checking mitch mcconnell, and why he doesn't want to help out students drowning in debt. stay with us. he doesn't want to help out students drowning in debt stay with us complete pair. visionworks. see the differ

republican party. it's just that simple. there's a new phenomenon. it was not clear that the republican party was a fully anti-democracy party until after the loss presidential election when donald trump did everything he possibly could to illegally overturn the presidential election, and on january six, one another nine republican members of the house of representatives and aid republican members of united states senate voted to overturn the presidential election, and nothing like that as often than ours through for the. and since, then it has only gotten much, much worse. the republican party has become only more embossed of democracy. with candidate seeking donald trump's endorsement by publicly stating that donald trump was right about the election. donald trump won the presidential election. and ketanji brown jackson's confirmation hearing, one of the republican witnesses who appeared there to testify against her confirmation under oath refused to answer the question, is joe biden a duly elected president of the united states. that is how deep and perverse the anti-democracy roth i

republican party's list cheney. a lifelong, rock ribbed, conservative republican. republicans republican. couldn't be more conservative, she couldn't be more dedicated to used to be the party's ideals. and she is the worst thing that you can say about kevin mccarthy, or anybody, but they are alive. somehow dulles cheney. that says everything you need to know about just how off the rails today's republican party is. and we really should worry what happens to the house of representatives. mountains of this country if these people actually do regain control, because they're worse than ever. >> and, stuart, the essence of the conspiracy for weeks became january 6th, and it was aimed at vice president pence throwing out electoral results. i know those people seem to wonder why i'll gordon do that in what was his own presidential election when he was the vice president, and on january 6th, did not throw out florida's electoral results. didn't try to, basically, grab the election from self in any way. but mike pence didn't actually, decide according to all the reporting on this. he didn't decide

party activists who have advanced stolen election falsehoods. and ten years after tom mann and norm ornstein identified republicans as the problem, congressional republicansare being investigated for their involvement in an illegal attempt to overthrow presidential election. in preparation for public hearings which are now scheduled to begin june 9th, the chairman of the junior six committee benny thompson said today, that house minority leader kevin mccarthy will be asked once again to testify to the committee. >> and then you said by the end of the week, you would decide whether to ask additional republican members to come in. mccarthy was going to be asked. can you give us an update on that? >> yeah, we will do that. before the weeks. out >> for mccarthy? >> and the others to. >> and the others to? >> yes. >> so you're going to ask all three once again voluntarily. to appear for the committee. >> that's correct. >> any other members will be asking to come before the committee or do you think the panel is done in terms of considerations about the members. >> well some of the other members will be sent letters. and we plan to provide the press copies of

republicans it is like a fat slow ball across the plate for a guy like ron desantis. the real thing that's so interesting, it really does define the new differences between today's democrat party and republican party. no longer is the republicantions. you have republican governor, republican legislature who stood up to one of the richest, the most powerful corporation in florida, and said butt out, mind your own business and took away some serious tax breaks for that company. that's a huge thing. the other thing that's astonishing here is to watch democrats step in and become the party of huge corporations. that's astounding. i think a lot of their voters will be disgusted to some that. >> gillian: david, here is the rub. we have now been exposed to this new revelation that in some districts taxpayers in florida will be subject to as much as $2,000 more per year in their tax bill. that is going to cost ron desantis something politically, is it not? >> it will cost the governor a lot. a perfect example of shoot first, ask questions later. you saw from the debate a little bit of debate that was happening on the house and senate floor in florida where they were trying to ask questions to say what does this really mean? ultimatel

the republican party must be the party of freedom. republicans must rollback joe biden's assault on the bill of rights. freedom of speech, assembly and religion, the freedom to bear arms, the bl -- the ability of the states to retain their own prerogative are all essential to our society's basic fabric and prosperity. the american people are the most creative and innovative in human history. these natural gifts flourish under freedom. they wither without it. it matters who is in charge. and as a party, we as republicans will have failed if we do not make it very clear what the consequences are of having democrats in charge. look from state to state and compare the difference between republican and democrat leaders. and democrat states families are devastated financially. from mandates and closures. having lost precious time in the classroom, kids have fallen behind. economies have been crippled by regulations and restrictions. law and order has been eliminated by leaders who embrace criminals and embolden them by disrespecting law enforcement and

hear that the republican representative also believes trump was a disaster for the country, but back to the origins of the republican party and why it came to be. i wish i was a republican listening to the beginning of the republican party, the grassroots efforts to stop the spread of slavery. i do not know how the republican party strayed so far away from this beginning and why when it was standing up for people that needed help and now is going to big money interests that decide to go into the big money spending that made this party completely opposite from what it started out. host: what do you think the democrats stand for? caller: i think the democrats also stand for big money interests, but i think that the democrats recognize that it is not good to stop people and going out of your way to try to destroy individuals. they realize that instead of being -- as opposed to a blunt instrument to stop people from living out their life. that is that hammer that everything is a male. we want to destroy it and make it become what we want or are we wearing to get rid of it? the democratic party, they have got stuff, too, but they also do not try to destroy everything in thei

it goes to a sort of trans in the republican party, one is the republican party has become a party of. what is not debating is that you're afraid to debate. no one lodges a debate that they think they're gonna win, or they did when it is fearfulness. why do you make it harder for people to vote? because you're afraid of what will happen if a lot of people vote. why do you make it harder for immigrants, it's a fearfulness, a fearfulness of gays, of higher education, and somehow the conservative movement in america has become a place that appeals to sort of that within us that is fearful. and it's a real really disturbing autocratic tendency, autocrats to pursue this is to make you feel safer. i will be the big brother, i will be the strongman, i will make you feel safer. and that's what there -- >> there's a few things here one is that this is about trump 's ego, he got his butt kicked in those debates he looked ridiculous and petulant, and now appears in retrospect probably had covid -- that they were hiding. which is really wild to consider. there's also a broader thing an nbc news d

canal treaties and in many ways this was a fore runner of things to come in the republican party, including the republican party of donald trump anyway in 1978, september, we barely won the primary, 53% and, you know, we're going to lose, because, what had happened, well he had gone through a messy divorce. and his daughters sided with their mother and became sources for the boston globe, i mean it was ugly. and in retrospect, there was a senate ethics probe, in question about medicaid funds, you know, pooling -- anyway, a bunch of sort of financial issues and you have to remember the thing about ed brooke is he was not an ordinary politician. you know in 1964 when lyndon johnson carried massachusetts by a million votes and ed brooke was elected attorney general by like 700,000 votes, i mean the biggest ticket splitting in the history of the state and brooke made people feel good about the process and about themselves for electing an african american to the senate, the first since reconstruction. the first popularly elected african american in the senate. and yet, to me, brooke's integrity, he didn't want

republicans who said that they thought russia was america's enemy. i mean that is mind-blowing. this is the republican party the evil empire of the ronald reagan republican party and people and more republicans were saying that they thought that russia wasn't a real threat to the united states and that was all trump. he also did that with trade and immigration. they people have republican voters the electorate at large not so much the you know, the leadership but or the thought leadership, but they have come around the immigration is bad trade free trade policies. heard american jobs that that was the that was unthinkable in the republican party of george hw and w bush. and art and was there or is there i mean, maybe we're seeing glimmers of this with vaccines where? you know, he's lost control but where there was there ever a point at which? you know the base kind of didn't go along with him. vaccines is the is the one that comes to mind right now, and that's the one if you talk to people on the right that he's he could be the most vulnerable because that has taken off in a way that i mean just look at what's happening in canada with these protests. it'

congress, a rising star in the republican party, a leading trump supporter, speaking at that rally on january 6th. >> my friends, i will tell you right now that there is a new republicanty rising. >> reporter: but tonight, republicans say that after a string of controversies, congressman madison cawthorn has finally crossed the line with his claim that people in washington, presumably gop lawmakers, invited him to sex parties and used cocaine. >> i look at all these people, a lot of them that i've looked up to through my life -- i've always paid attention to politics, guys -- then all of the sudden you get invited to, well, hey, we're going to have kind of a sexual get together at one of our homes. you should come. i'm like, what did you just ask me to come to? then you realize they are asking you to come to an orgy. or the fact that, you know, some of the people that are leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country, and then you watch them do, you know, a key bump of cocaine right in front of you. >> reporter: house republican leader kevin mccarthy, who has been reluctant to discipline other members for making outrageous comments, summoned cawth

republican party. which republicans continue subscribing to this lie? trying to survive, just hoping to get another opportunity to serve an elected office and which ones embrace the truth. to the defense of mike pence, even though a lot of people disagree with the way that he conducted himself while he was vice president, right at the end, he refused to go along with trump's lies and here, two years later, he continues speaking the truth. and we will see where that goes, pence is respected among the republicanarty and he is a true conservative and he is also committed to the truth and now you are right stephanie that may or may not work but that is what is going to be answered this primary season, is the republican party still a fully owned subsidiary of the trump organization, or will it go back to being an entity of its own, with people who, whether we agree or disagree with, them say the truth. >> they might want to look out, being a fully owned subsidiary of the trump organization, new slashed, it's gone bankrupt six times. in utah, former republican evan mcmullin, he is now running as an independent against mike lee, and he just accepted the endorsement of the saints democrats, what do you think of that move? >> evan mcmullin has been committed to fighting donald trump since 2016 and he has planted his flag in utah, he did gain some traction in the past and now he is trying to build a coalition, not necessarily of people who agree on policy, but on people who agree that politicians sho

republican traditional values and also let me remind you that walt disney world has been one of the biggest political donors to republican legislatures and the republican governor and the republican party have gone to countless events in disney parks and hotels held by the republican florida raising money for them. so i'd like to know if the republican party of florida is going to return all of those donations from walt disney world. i'd like to know what the business sector is going to do to stand in solidarity with disney world so they are not all silenced and being stifled by a legislature and governor that have just gone insane with their pettiness. in the meantime, floridians can't get home insurance. in the meantime, they haven't done a damn thing to reform condo laws so that condo buildings don't collapse in the middle of the night, killing an trapping people inside. it's just absolute craziness. >> but you know, jim, she is right, but it's more sinister. the optics. ron desantis going against mickey and minnie. it's not just a state of florida issue. this is a larger, national issue that plays into politics and to create this win for desantis who may have higher aspirations. so

party? republican line, joseph, missouri. hello. caller: the republicans, i do not know if it is even possible. the democratic party is owing to cheat again. -- the democratic party is going to cheat again. they are going to plan out how to do it. the republicans, they need to take the cover off the mechanism and get inside the clock works and clean it out. host: why focus on the can accept the election, versus the issues? caller: everybody knows the issues. i think republicans won a clean election. they gummed up the works. democrats gummed up the works and stole the election. now, it is going to happen again. unless, the republicans can get in. it starts in these big cities who have been cheating for years upon decades. chicago, new york, all these big towns. st. louis. host: ok. memphis, tennessee. democrats line. caller: this is joshua from memphis. i hear obama last week. he a year late. another thing, watch out for the young folks. they are not polling how they think they do. they live a different life than the republican party thinks they think abou

republican party, the republican caucus in the house and house minority leader are willing to lie about what they have done and said all for the purpose of winning back the majority in the midterms. that leads to an even bigger question for me, if the house minority leader is willing to lie, when we can read and hear the words with our own ears, what does a speaker mccarthy do? how can the american people trust what he says? how did the american press trust what he says? that is the bigger problem for the republicancould be a bigger problem for the country. judy: how do you answer some of those questions, david? david: when i started doing this job and people would ie -- would lie in interviews, i was shocked, but now i am used to it. kevin mccarthy is a nice guy. he does not particularly have convictions. he has blown with the wind. what is interesting is, is there a scandal? it is only a scandal if donald trump says it is a scandal. donald trump decides intelligently it is not a scandal. he now owns kevin mccarthy because he's got something on him. this has been a good maneuver for donald trump. judy: with that, we are going to thank both of you, david brooks, jonathan capehart. jonathan: thanks, judy. ♪ judy: a new novel imagines a world in which our memories can be accessed and reviewed by ourselves and by others. jeffrey brown talks to pulitizer-prize winning author jennifer egan at her home in brooklyn about her latest work of fiction. it's part of our arts and culture series, canvas. jeffr

republican party. and we're going to see a lot primaries over the next several months that are going to be a referendum of the republican party. where republican voters have to decide where they want to go. do they want to move back towards the views of ronald reagan and margaret thatcher? or do they want to move in a more neofascist direction, a direction they were going that of course culminated on january 6. on this national, holocaust remembrance day. and, mika, also, madeleine albright's funeral, obviously going to be something very personal to you and your family, all of us. >> i know. the former secretary of state's funeral will be had held at the national cathedral at 11:00 a.m. she died last month after a battle with cancer. her three daughters will be speaking. president biden expected to give a eulogy, as well as bill and hillary clinton. she served as secretary of state under president president bill clinton. more than 1400 people are expected to attend. there will be lots of foreign leaders, top diplomats and people they inspired as well. she loved to spread the spirit of democracy and teacher where and any

we need a strong republican party and we need a strong republican conference, we just don't have thats. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >>> david jolly, to the congresswoman's point, wanting the members to share their thoughts and the truth about 1/6 and this whole conversation about whether or not republicans will be subpoenaed isn't about punishing your colleagues, it's about getting to the truth of january 6th. i wonder how you think the substance of what's on the tapes -- we should also remember liz cheney is on those calls. when they happen, she's the number three, right? she's the third highest ranking republican. it goes mccarthy, scalise, liz, and that's what she was purged from. why are we debating whether or not they should be subpoenaed? why wouldn't they go, man up, sit and share with the committee what we've all heard with our own ears on the tape? >> yeah. so it is about getting to the truth, unless you look at it through the lens of kevin mccarthy and his republican colleagues. it's about hiding the truth. that's why they will not cooperate with the janua

a revolt in the michigan republican party after republicans there chose two trump election deniers forstate party's decision to endorse trump-backed candidate matthew deperno for attorney general and the secretary of state led a long-time insider to resign from the party. he said, quote, it is encouraging the delusional lies of an undisciplined loser. he said, feckless, coward leaders made it a test of who is more loyal to donald trump, and relitigating the results of the 2020 cycle. "the new york times" reports daunt's resignation shocked party insiders, in part, because of his close ties to the prominent donor network of the devos family. betsy devos resigned a day after the attack on the capitol, saying trump's rhetoric was partly to blame for what happened that day. there also is a fundraising issue for the michigan republican party. one republican strategist telling the "times," quote, a lot of the traditional donors, they walked away. i don't know how it survives long term. so that's just a snapshot, joe, in the state of michigan. republicans, some of them, are pushing back again

why is the republican party of the republican governor so intent on reigning disney in well, you know, apart the show an example. i mean, the fan of time and time again, take him on corporations. this is a most high profile, but it's gone after twitter, facebook, etc, to varying degrees. but when you look at this particular situation, disney basically was responding to l g, b, q, workers, staff, and so on. there a lot of people like company those issues are very profoundly important to. and the fancy ministration took the most hard my position occurred, especially when i started getting frame. don't say gay bill actually wants the framing with the santa ministration basically said, you know, we're going to make this issue something that we read or die with. and thus far as, as dunwar for the fantasy has driven his donations. he's owing wall, et cetera. but this is still breaks and ship. nothing has actually happened yet. and you know what i'm watching is how dizzy recalibrate and how the santos recalibrate things that will happen outside of the headline and outside of the cameras wher

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this is the difference between the republican party and the democratic party. the republican party wants to put blame on somebody about this aspect and that. joe biden and democrats in the house and senate are actually trying to come up with policies to address these issues. we want to bring down the cost that the american people are experiencing. if inflation is up, then let's bring down the cost of prescription drugs. let bring down the cost of child care. let bring down the cost of medical coverage. you see that joe biden right now in this administration are trying to wipe out medical debt on people's credit report. rev, you and i both know a lot of people whose credit had been dinged because on tens of thousands of dollars of debt on credit report is a big deal and only happened because of joe biden and the democrats in the house and senate. >> jaime harrison, chair of the dnc. thank you for coming on. see you at the convention this week. >>> much more "politics nation" ahead. first, my colleague richard lui is in with today's top stories. >> some stories breaking, six pe

fiscal conservative and the question i debate with my colleagues is whether the republican party or important parts of the republican party would be likely to join with democrats to strengthen essentially social welfare give various things to provide better jobs, you have a strong track record on bipartisanship so do you see an opening in the republican party despite the fact the track record recently has not been in this direction? >> important framing, the question many of us have discussed with my republican colleagues, there's a difference between rhetoric and results. there could be rhetoric designed in dealing with issues with middle-class americans and the question we have to act in the previous four years of a previous administration is what are the results? how did you endeavor to deal with those challenges? if it is just populist rhetoric without results you are delivering, all you are really doing is grievance to acquire power. and present that grievance to acquire power and the well connected. that is particularly cynical and what we saw in many ways, the legislative accomplishment and economic policy, t

republicans do generally across the country. and i think there's a lot of people in the republican party that will privately tell you that it is time for donald trump to exit the stage and allow other conservatives. to emerge that he really has, um, left a stand on the republican party in many, many respects that will take years to overcome with respect to the january 6th. a variety. he has not taken full responsibility for that or any responsibility for it, and there are republican legislators i've spoken with who really would very much like distance themselves from him. some fear that there will be backlash. others just believe time will take its toll on donald trump. brian, you mentioned the midterms. many have predicteandl that tell us about the future? it'll be interesting to see greg whether they can all coalesce around one idea and that is taking control of the house of representatives. you know, job one for republicans. if they can do that, these things like what mccarthy may have said or what other people may have said we'll go by the wayside because they now control and become heads of committees and everything else. um the congress of the united states. i only got a little bit of time left. but if you were in kevin mccarthy's here, what do you tell