it's also republican members of congress against republican members of congress. and particularly, right now, it's republican senators against republicans in the house. and none of the old alliances appear to be sticking. so this is all very fun. it's all fascinating to watch, at least, as the house goes to bed for the year. the plan in the senate, however, seems to be that they will never go to bed again, ever. the senate stayed in session all night last night. they took a vote to confirm a judge around 1:00 a.m. then they stayed all night to take another couple of votes to confirm another judge and another nominee around 9:00 a.m. tonight, they are planning on staying all night, again. they're going to stay overnight all night and eventually take votes on totally noncontroversial judicial nominees for federal courts in montana and new hampshire, on the new secretary of the air force, a couple deputy and assistant secretaries of state. then they're going to stay all night again tomorrow night, into saturday, taking more votes that will all pass, without a doubt.

a conservative republican, a moss-covered republican. a libertarian republican. i don't want to be told by my party who have appointed themselves the republican purity police that i do not along. -- that i do not belong. i do not want to be called a rhino. actually, i have changed my mind on that go ahead and call me a , rhino. for me that stands for republican that is inclusive not obstructionist. i just want to be a republican and focus on the things we agree on as a party. not the things we disagree on. i do not want to wage fights against republicans that can win in their individual districts and states. call me crazy, but i would rather use our resources and energy beating democrats, not other republicans. mike lee can win utah. but he probably cannot win in new hampshire. chris christie can win in new jersey. but he would have a hard time winning in alabama. i do not care how many times ted cruz hugs barack obama. i do not think he can win the majority of the latino vote, the women vote, in new jersey. i want to win elections. that requires fielding candida

these dastardly republicans. so, the phony scandals, just another vehicle to continue the same mode mod id operandi homophobes, war on women. all that stuff. >> a lot of people are unhappy. phony republicans because a lot of people hate the irs. in early may he says this is a serious problem. now it's phony. and it's just a campaign tactic? is that what you are saying? >> he has got a slavish media he is k. say whatever he wants and not called on it by the media he can do pretty much anything he wants. i should have added in my previous answer to your question that he couldn't get away with any of this without a slavish media. the media doesn't question him. in fact, it is on board with his agenda and trying to help him advance it i have gotten to the point where what he says is irrelevant. i can give you quotes of what he said in 2002, 2005, 2007 about healthcare. i give you quotes on what he said about global warming and all these things that they are irrelevant. what you have to do is watch what he does. he is

republicans? i will get into some of those numbers in a minute. we were primarily interested in that question because we wanted to begin to try and answer if there are divisions are they just fleeting, are they going to go away? this is a temporary blip on the map or are these divisions likely to persist and so there is this literature out there that says when you only hear like-minded ideas, all the time, when you live in this echo chamber, your ideas get reinforced and people begin to he come more polarized. weooking at media sources were hoping -- by looking at media sources we were hoping to project that perhaps if there are divisions, they would persist if there are these divisions in media sources so that is the second thing. -- the second thing that we looked at. final question which i think was probably the more -- most challenging part of the project which was we wanted to specifically look at social media as well. social media, the reason we wanted to focus on that specific question was

the republicans don't have any power. all they can do, maybe, if they get the ca hone as is, in terms of legislation in washington. thr they have the house, but nothing in the senate. they can't stop him anywhere, yet, he's out acting like he's got to overcome all of this opposition and all of these mean people that want to prevent the american people from realizing their dream, these dastardly republicans. so the phony scandals. it's just another vehicle to continue the same modus on randy. all that stuff. >> why do you think, though, a lot of people are unhappy about the phony scandals, a lot of republicans. a lot of people hate the irs. in early may, he says this is a serious problem. now it's phony, and it's just a campaign tactic? is that what you're saying? >> he's got a slavish media. he can say whatever he wants and he's not going to be called on it. he can do pretty much whatever he wants. he should have added in my previous answer to your question, that he couldn't get away with any of this without a slavish med

and any republicans here, republican-leaning people, offended by that. >> no. it seems like john boehner had been waiting a very long time to do that. and he could do that with very minimal blowback. he didn't need those people to get that budget deal passed. so it was sort of a win-win for him. i think the other interesting republican breakup this year, though, looking ahead, was rand paul and chris christie. chris christie gave a speech basically scolding paul, we're not a debating society, we have to win elections. i think that crystallizes the gop fight of the year -- do we win elections or stand on principles? >> this is the big question going into 2014, right? it's not like john boehner was listening to conservatives because he wanted to. house republicans -- senate republicans have been really worried about primary fights. look at mitch mcconnell dancing this whole year around energi energizing conservatives, opposing conservatives. so i think the big question going in, that is unanswered, is are republicans -- are the conservative tea party activists go

in essence -- and i don't think this was geared towards republicans. i isle -- and this was nothing look standing in a town hall that makes you change your mind. this is how this happens, how people change their minds in washington. to get a bipartisan deal or if something leads to another opportunity for republicans and democrats to work together to solve a problem. >> hillary, the elephant in the room as i mentioned is obama care. on wednesday the chaos commences. isn't that what democrats are really going to have to run on? whether they like it or not. i don't believe you're going to have a choice. you're going to have to deal with obama care over the next year. >> i think there is a chance, a chance that by september we're actually going to have stories where people who couldn't get insurance, you know, like two of mice cousins at our holiday table, now because of preexisting conditions now can get it. there are so many benefits to this thing that have gotten lost in this trap of execution that, you know, it won't take much for enough people to tel

now they go to know. >> it's interesting because the republicans who voted for obama and the republican party itself there seems to be a lot of confusion and a lot of dissatisfaction and discouragement. you wrote this book for a number of reasons but my question is did you plan the timing of this book? >> yes i did. i'm going to drop this thing right before the republican party shinki in d.c. takes the beer truck strayed over the cliff with a government shutdown that will drive their numbers to an all-time low. then i started thinking if it's at an all-time low no one will believe that the republicans can come back to power. at least we have a reason for hope. the timing has been. >> it's unbelievable because when you read it you will see it's exactly, it fills the void that a lot of people feel when they are democrats and they want good candidates on both sides to raise the level of the national conversation and raise the quality of our candidates. or a republican who wants the party to stop. >> i don't know if i'd say it quite that way. >> we showed some polls this morning on the show

there are two republican party's right now. there is the republican party in washington d.c.. it is such, especially because sobol pockets of it, such an ideologically driven parties that does not allow a variety of views. i am not talking liberal views and conservative views. i am talking the variety of views the we had when for instance the heritage foundation, heritage was about education reform. getting a lot of different conservative together -- jack kemp would have horrible fights and they would come together and come up with a tax reform plan, there would be battles on the budget. there were a lot of different ways forward and conservatives, we believe even into the 90s, we always talked about a legislative laboratory of ideas, talked about the marketplace of ideas, always talked about the free marketplace of ideas, close the doors, go downstairs, debate nonstop among ourselves until we came up with the best plan for reform. that is not the case any more. in washington d.c. if you veer off the path a little bit to the right or a little bit to the left, there are ideolog

if there is a republican president in the republican senate, they're going to rue the day that they did this. >> on the very day that this debate went ahead, there was that, well, they all do it. was there not only a quantitative, but qualitative change in what happened this year leading up to harry reid's fateful issue. >> why i would take issue is that the democrats picked the fight. it was something a little bit different. first, filibustering executive nominees. the first time sitting member of the house had been filibustered or blocked in a hundred years. it was after the republicans in the senate promised they would do so only under extraordinary circumstances. if you look at circuit court of appeals nominees blocked for the district of columbia, you didn't have even the fig leave, which we had the last time that republican leader bill frisk threatened this action, well, this person is extreme, or this person didn't qualified. the republicans in the senate said they're not extreme, they're not qualified, we're not going to confirm anybody. it was daring democrats to go further. on

low income people across america frequently vote republican thus becoming republican cult followers. and then just like they were followers of jonestown. they let their leaders of the republican party pass out policy kool-aid. that actually kills people and it's killing some of them some of these republican cult followers for example right now in twenty three states led by mostly republican lawmakers these twenty three states are refusing to expand medicaid under obamacare even though it's free free money for the first three years ninety nine percent forever after as a result of this literally millions of low income americans in these states won't have access to lifesaving health care or medication. it's going to cause deaths as millions of americans include the followers of the g.o.p. and these are red states. include the followers of the republican party who helped give the republicans control the house of representatives. meanwhile as republicans are taking away health care from their followers they're also taking away their food last month thanks to republican opposition congress

democratic majority, and the senate republicans felt left out. that's a part of it. then you put into that as well continueds grumbling over the change of the rules. it was not at all clear until a few days ago that they had the 60 votes needed. now i think what you're seeing is you don't have very many senate republicans who are suicidal, and they recognize if you didn't let this go through, even if it was a vote against it in the end they would look like complete fools and their ratings by go from the 6% into the negative. >> there is another year to run in this congress, and it's an election year, what changes after january 1st. >> what changes for a lot of republicans in the house the primary days are through and they have to worry about general elections. and in the senate, they have their general elections and there are nine, at some point you have to win a general election. if you're so unpopular you're really vulnerable to a general election challenge even with redistricting. i think there are issues like immigration reform that could hap

before republicans can win back the senate, is that the republicans also have to run a gauntlet of frankly right on right primaries. we'll have more on that calendar challenge later in the show. and then will is the question of whether any dam can pull a mcauliffe and do something they haven't done, which is win with the obama voting coalition without the president himself on the ballot. mcauliffe pull that had off in virginia. house and senate races will test the viability of the two parties' driving strategies, which message is more powerful, democratic attacks, or the republican exploitation of public fears about the health care law. there will be a special election to replace bill young in from a's 13th district. it is one of those perfect 50/50 seats. the democrats have even a long shot of making the house competitive and getting close to the 17 seats they would immediate to retake the chamber? that florida '13 special, yeel overdo it, but it will provide a clue or two. and then there is the 2014 x factor. the public's disgust at washington and everyone in office. this is unchartered

as republicans from guam and washington, d.c. even though they drink the gop milkshake, there is one place where republicans have the upper hand. they have more women serving as governors. on the gop side four women are currently residing in governor's mansions, january brewjan brewe arizona, susanna martinez in new mexico, mary fallin in oklahoma and maggie hassan in new hampshire. republican gubernatorial advantage in 2014. 36 states are set to hold gubernatorial elections next year. and according to rutgers university, 37 women have filed or are likely to file for races. set to feature high-profile women running as democrats. >> a lot of people are considering what they want to do in the future if they can be of greater service. >> you? >> i'm among those people. >> today, i am proud to announce my candidacy to be the 48th governor of this great state. >> the only pennsylvania woman in the u.s. congress. now she wants to become the state's first woman governor. >> i think people are very ready. i feel very ready to run and to

every democrat voted for a republican budget, while two thirds of republicans voted against the budget and were willing to lead the government shutdown. we have to get past this shutdown mentality. >> are you willing to shut down the government. >> i didn't want to before and i don't want to do it now. >> but that's what he does >> i wanted to vote for a clean cr. in fact in this show about a month ago, we were talking about the democrats were only asking for a clean cr. that's all i was asking for. let's do a clean cr. the xwugt control act is the law of the land today. that's all i wanted to vote for. the democrats don't want to vote for that. >> but you're not willing to do it today. >> i would be willing to vote for a clean cr. >> let's go do that. >> the leadership right now is in the midst of injecting things that weren't part of is the budget negotiation. that's why i want to read it before i vote on for it. i want to make sure no back room -- >> did we get you to agree on something? >> we would actually vote for a clean cr. that's all i want to vote for. it sounds like javier w

because republicans get sick, too.is about them, he as bend clinton even as they are cutting some things, even as they were balancing the budget, they found common ground. i would love to see speaker boehner -- and did you. >> but there's another way to see this. >> we had a republican congressman who said this deal, this budget deal got done in spite of president obama, because he wasn't involved. is he relevant? >> i think he's highly relevant. >> how so? where does it end? >> actually this addresses tim, too. this is the problem for president obama that president clinton did not have -- the tea party. . and they really hate president obama. so the more he engages president obama, the more impossible it is for tea party republicans to come on to smp. >> no, that is not -- they hated bush. they said vicious things. >> terrible. >> think back to the reagan years. i was scarred for life. i think that's overstated. the truth is president clinton moved right. it was a conservative play. >> that was not something that -- >

i don't want to be called a tea party republican, a conservative republican, a moderate republican, a whacko republican, a moss-covered republican, a libertarian, a vegetarian, a humanitarian or a rastafarian. i don't want to be told my people if my party who have appointed themselves the republican security police that i don't belong. i don't want to be called a rino. actually, i've changed my mind on that. go ahead and call me a rino because for me that stands for republican that's inclusive, not obstructionist. i just want to be a republican, and i want to focus on the things that we agree on as a party, not the things we disagree on. i don't want to wage primary fights against republicans that can win in their individual districts and states. call me crazy, but i'd rather use our resources and our energy in beating democrats, not other republicans. mike lee can win utah, but he probably could not win in new hampshire. chris christie can win in new jersey, but he would have a very hard time winning in alabama. and i don't care how many times or how hard ted cruz can hug barack obam

republicans want entitlement reform.he president asks for higher taxes, and new spending programs. >> i'm announcing the launch of three more of these manufacturing hubs. use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security trust. put people to work as soon as possible on our most urgent repairs. make high quality preschool available to every single child in america. redesign america's high schools so they better equip graduates. >> higher taxes on job reducers. more spending will continue to destroy jobs. >> our cameras followed you through the sequester showdown. one telling moment was after the state of the union. was that speech a turning point that some republicans said, he's not hearing us? this thing is going to kick in. >> the president's not hearing the american people. they want spending cuts. and they see that as the only mechanism where spending cuts are actually taking place. >> turns out the republicans almost liked the poison. it was clearly a blunder by the president. it was just a complete mis

america had republican mayors. oxymoron. today, bloomberg reported this week winn bill de blasio is sworn in as new york's mayor in a month, end 20 years of non-democratic control of new york and make all 12 of mark's largest cities democratic controlled. the republican party of the obama era grows ever more isolated from america. today's gop writes off america's cities, all the voters of america's cities as straight-ticket democrats. doesn't even try. relies on the suburbs, on the excerpts, on rural america it stokes resent its toward urban america in non-urban america it is utterly and in many ways intentionally alienated the exact voters jack kemp was so eager and so desperate to bring into the fold. voters who just 20 years ago seemed to be ready to at least give the gop a look. this is the backdrop for what is going to happen this coming friday in detroit. city where barack obama won nearly 98% of the vote over mitt romney, native michigander, mitt romney, last year. detroit on friday, the state republican par

republicans want entitlement reform. the president asked for higher taxes and new spending programs. >> i'm announcing the launch of three more of these manufacturing homes. use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security trust. put people to work as soon as possible. make high quality preschool available to every single child in america. redesign america's high school so they better equip graduates. >> our taxes on job producers, more spending will continue to destroy jobs. >> last winter our cameras followed you through the sequester showdown. one telling moment was after the state of the union. was that a turning point that some republicans said he's not hearing us? this thing is going to kick in. >> the president is not hearing the american people. they want spending cuts and see that as the only mechanism where spending cuts are actually taking place. >> turns out the republicans almost liked the poison. it was clearly a blunder by the president. it was just a complete misreading of the opposition. >

the republican party. >> in the crossfire tonight, republican party chairman reince priebus along with debbie wasserman schultz. the congressman has just published a new book, for the sdprexe next generation. we're delighted to have you here. >> thank you very much. >> i'm going to jump in and take the first question. mr. chairman in the three years that you have been the chairman of the rnc, that civil war has really it flourished. divisions are greater than ever before. you have the ted cruz wing versus the chris christie wing. what request ycan you do about ? >> first of all, i don't think it's the hype that the media makes it up to be. our party is very focused on obama care, something that really unifies the party. we've got one party in the midterm election that quite frankly wince everything imaginable, governor races, we have a huge opportunity in the senate. i think we've been wildly successful in midterms and we've had a hard time in presidential elections. >> what about you've got five senators who are being primaried by the tea party, including the minority leader, mitch mc

what makes every republican, i mean, almost, i think every republican and almost every democrat i canhink of love teddy roosevelt as a president. was it the rough riders, san juan hill, the heroism of his youth. what was it? why is he on mt. rushmore? he's up there. >> he is, indeed. i think it's a combination of things. one is, as you say, he had a cowboy mentality and a physical sense of being a big active guy. but at the same time, he came from the east, so he spread east and west. he was just so colorful. somebody who came over from britain said that there were two forces of nature in america. niagara falls and teddy roosevelt. but also, i think he knew how to speak and communicate. he said, at one point, thaz harvard buddies might think that he talked in too folksy language, but he could meet people emotionally. and he went out on trains more than any other president had. he'd be gone for weeks on end at whistlestop tours, stopping at every village station, waving to people. he loved the that emotional connection to the people. people loved him at the time and they still look bac

how do you get republicans -- nab four or five republicans to get it passed a cloture vote. for that specifically paul ryan is a big impact, susan collins, john mccain, those people, because he gives them cover if there's a problem. it hinges on ryan signing off. >> from the speaker or leadership from tryin paul ryan. sage of capitol hill, luke russert. >> alex a special day, two st. albans graduates on at the time. >> now is the point in the show where i make a nasty joke about private schools and then gets mad at me so i'm not going to take the bait, russert, you and your wiley st. albans ways. >> go bulldogs. >> coming up, a federal judge ruled in detroit's landmark bankruptcy case. we'll discuss the details when mayor dave bing joins us live ahead. but first, the rnc does damage control in the wake of controversial tweet about rosa parks. despite cosmetic fixes and autopsy reports republicans have a grand ole problem with race. we'll discuss next on "now." [ female announcer ] can it get any cleaner? with swiffer bissell steamboost... [ steam hisses ] guys! [ female anno

republicans singular focus on that. the risk to that, right, is the other issues like inequality might actually rate. there is some polling on people's feelings on raising the minimum wage. nbc "wall street journal," we did a poll on it. raising minimum wage to $10.10, 63% favor it, only 36% oppose it. you have tom harkin and george miller, raising onto 2013 in three steps. starting in twochlt 2016 minimum wage indexed to inflation, raised for tipped worker from $2.13, which is stunning that's what it is to 70% of the minimum wage. if democrats are able to get any traction at all on this issue, it's something that could leave republicans stuck on aca track. >> republicans are going to ride the wave of obama care's problems throughout 2014. that's going to be their lead issue. i think you're right, joy. there's other issues, probably economic inequality. republicans have to have some kind of counter, alternative plan. pay attention to rumblings in the republican party look. at paul ryan making major speeches on poverty.

republicans only. caller: mr.ham, we do not care what color you are, and that should be put to rest. i am tired of this race issue being a problem. next, i agree with mr. charles krauthammer. the media is out stirring the pot because they know obamacare is in trouble and likely to lose a lot of seats in 2014. democrats, them, media, they are stirring the pot to cause problems within the divide so that they do not lose seats. host: naomi, who do you like -- who is a republican that you like and you would like to see stay in office and what is an issue you are concerned about? caller: i like a lot of them in the house. trey gowdy is a brave soul from south carolina. there are people from georgia. i cannot recall their names. host: are you a member of the tea party or do you support their efforts? caller: i am not in the tea party, but i support what they do because all they are after is for both parties to get back to the constitution and stop trying to tear it down. oklahoma,i in norman, thank you for your time thi

i think with women republicans, only about 25% of them, let's see, republican women, 24%, only 24% ofcan women think it would be a good idea if more women were elected to congress. jess mcintosh, there is some very interesting social psychology there. >> there is. and i'm a little hesitant to delve into it. >> i've gone as far as i can go. i don't know what the words are to describe what's going on there. >> deep-seeded and frightening. i think there's something in the republican party today that doesn't respect women, and that's -- you see that in their policies, you see that in their not wanting to reauthorize the violence against women act, their inability to recognize equal pay as an issue, their desire to take life-saving health care away from women. you also see it in this constant stream of gaffes. i mean, the gentleman in iowa who started us off today, mr. jacobs, said he had a wife and a daughter, and that was how he learned to interact with women. women voters don't want their candidates to talk to them like husbands and fathers. that's really demeaning and weird. women want

republican senator, marco rubio was the first, first likely republican presidential candidate to release a statement. which says -- this budget continues washington's irresponsible budgeting decisions spending more than the government takes and placing burdens on americans. >> democratic leader of the house. nancy pelosi said, tonight's agreement represents a step toward enacting a budget for the american people and preventing further manufactured crises that harm our economy, destroy jobs and weaken our middle-class. i look forward to discussing the details of the agreement with my colleagues in the house democratic caucus. >> with president obama still in the air, on his way back from south africa, the white house issued this statement. today's agreement is a good first step. congress has a lot more to do on the front in the immediate term. congress should extend unemployment insurance so more than a million americans looking for work don't lose a life line right after christmas and our economy doesn't take a hit. joining me now is, ezra klein, msnbc columnist. and sam stein, msnbc, po

make the republicans fight for something.ake the republicans the grinch of christmas, because democrats, you have everything in your corner to put them in that position. the budget is expected to cut the deficit by $85 billion over the next decade and fund the government for the next two years. there is no long-term extension for unemployment benefits in this deal whatsoever. which is bad. it's heartless. on one hand, the republicans say, well, the economy is not doing very well under obama, but on the other hand, we're just going to stick it to the folks looking for a job. starting december 28, 1.3 million americans are going to stop getting unemployment check it is this bill passes within the next hour or so. make no mistake, this will put some people out on the street. earlier today, nancy pelosi made a heated case to extend the unemployment benefits. >> it's absolutely unconscionable that we could possibly consider leaving washington, d.c. without extending those benefits. work ethic is strong and respected in our country

to object pose republican leaders. they called speaker boehner and the republican leadership team quote unquote squishs, who have sacrificed principal for compromise. speaker boehner finally lashed out on camera. >> they are using our members and they are using the american people for their own goals. this is ridiculous. listen, if you are more for deficit reduction, you are for this agreement. >> yes. what about speaker boehner's outburst? why is he so. >> reporter: ed? >> pat? he won this battle. when you win a bottle, you are magnanimous. why didn't he disregard the fact these groups were angry? he should have said i know we have disagreements, i think this is a necessary and right deal. instead of going after them, he is appealing to the washington establishment, they are going to lacquer him all up for what he did. >> this is a message to these groups that their day is over and that the republican leadership is fighting back. and he wouldn't be doing that if the republicans hadn't come to the conclusion that the t

poll of polls and frank by the way is a republican strategy is the best selling author and he's been a commentator an analyst on fox news and c.b.s. recent c.n.n. poll of polls shows obama's approval rating at forty one percent fifty five percent disapprove the only people lower of congress who have faith what's going on frank first of congress has got an eight percent nine percent job approval rating khadafi had a fifteen percent job approval rating and that was among the people who killed him hitler had eleven percent yeah bug juice and so it shows you how far congress has fallen the i want to take it one step broader which is that we don't trust any institutions right now it's not just the presidency that's in challenges that's being in check and it's not just congress it's business leaders it's cultural leaders it's the media it's everybody we think is out for themselves and against us there's no cronkite there is no there's no arbiter and there's nobody that we trust mother teresa is gone nelson mandela's been off the political stage there's really nobody that we can look to and

the republican primary. and the way to win a republican primary is unfortunately the dynamics in that party is to fire up an angry white base and part of the way to fire up that base is to fire it up against latinos. >> and that's why i think chris christie will not get the republican nomination. he is a fantastic general election candidate. he could win. he can't win the republican primary. >> it shows by virtue of their own autopsy, they've actually created more problems than others. the last group i will mention is the lgbt community. look at what's happening with enda at the federal level. look at how chris christie kind of tried to shrilink his way through. >> whstill in that long list of people who the gop autopsy said we needed to reach out to, which was everybody, they've failed everybody. african-americans. latinos. women. youth. and the gays. >> and guess what? there's another group that we're going to be talking about. jonathan capehart and david sirota, they're going to stick with me. because it'

in washington the republicans went home to thanksgiving and you also said that the republicans should not just say no to the president. republicans in washington went home for thanksgiving with a 40 page booklet how they could exploit the problems the president is having with his health care program. good politics maybe, but oosperm to be saying that republicans need to offer an alternative. is that right? >> i do. i think overall one of the things i wrote about in this book is austerity is not the answer, reform s. what americans are hungry for, the reason why i want a state where the few months carried that state as the same margin just over seven percentage points in both cases those undecided persuadable voters more than anything want leadership. people to stand up and tell them what they're going to do. in our case i think there is a much better market driven solution whether it comes from health care, entitlements just have the courage to stand up and do it in the states where republicans are the mo successful today. >> dickerson: you talk about the sour politics of austerity ar

>> i do not know how to read the republicans at this point. my hunch is that the leadership is going to win on this one. in the time of the continuing resolution, the leadership lost control. politically, they paid a price for that. i do not know how to predict the future. in the long term, we still have to deal with some very tough revenue and expenditure issues. i do not see that -- those are off the agenda for the next two years. i do not see anything happening on those issues. at some point, we need to get to them. >> congressman, you mentioned how this was a pragmatic political move by the republicans. it is interesting the reaction from the right wing of the party. red state refer to this deal as capitulation and they were upset that the budget deal for two years removed important leverage over obamacare. is this the sign the mainstream of the party is not ready to get tough with that 25 hard-core right-wingers in the house? is this just a temporary tactical disagreement? >> i think it is somewhat demeaning to refer to people as right-wi

republicans had to get off the crisis to crisis management. they received most of the blame for the shutdown. it was not maybe fair, but they did receive most of the blame. now the slate is a little bit clean. there is bipartisan movement on the budget. i would agree with gil that republicans have won the day on discretionary spending. $200 billion less than president obama recommended. how could you not consider that a victory? clear the deck and move on to an issue -- websites will be corrected. whether it is two weeks or 30 days. to me, the underbelly is the law itself. obamacare itself. the websites will be corrected, that is not the issue. my kids and grandkids have to live with the law for the next 30 years. that is the underbelly. >> the strategic play by the republican leadership, let's put the budget issues on the back burner. let's clear the way for obama care to be front page news. it is going to move well beyond the website. in 2014, there will be all sorts of issues relating to the and who is getting covered and who is not getting

republicans want entitlement reform.he president asks for higher taxes, and new spending programs. >> i'm announcing the launch of three more of these manufacturing hubs. use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security trust. put people to work as soon as possible on our most urgent repairs. make high quality free school available to every single child in america. redesign america's high schools so they better equip graduates. >> our taxes on job reducers, more spending will continue to destroy jobs. >> the sequester showdown and one telling moment was after the state of the union. was that speech a turning point that some republicans said, he's not hearing us? this thing is going to kick in. >> the president's not hearing the american people. they want spending cuts. and they see that as the only mechanism where spending cuts are actually taking place. >> turns out the republicans almost liked the poison. it was clearly a blunder by the president. it was just a complete misreading of the opposition. >> i

that isn't the whole republican party. it's not the suburban republican party. the rush limbaugh republican party. that we're the ones being beaten up on. >> right. i want to be clear that that's not rank and file. right. >> right. but you said your goal was to turn the republican party around. how do you think that went? i think it's clear where the republican party has gone. and it's not in the direction that you say you wanted to take it in. it's in precisely the opposite direction. >> i think there are a lot of republicans in the north and midwest and a lot of parts in the country who would hate the idea of being in a party that was seen as racist. >> absolutely. >> they hate that image. and really would vote against it on paper. >> those were the voices we were looking to elevate in the rank and file of the party which helped us elect african-americans to congress, a broad spectrum of folks with recognition of historic links but importance going forward. >> what african-americans in congress? >> okay. one of the problems you've got there is that you were re

no, over 130, 140 republicans. if the republicans out there. care about anything other than tax cuts, if they care about the environment or women aright to choose or sense of community in our country, and i think that they do. are they overwhelmingly support gun safety, immigration, and the rest. they really are just going to have to weigh in. it's not a small group, i think it is really important to note that. >> you can see my entire interview with leader pelosi and the rest of our special report, women in politics, tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific here on msnbc. up next -- can adam levine make obama care sexy? no, seriously. can he? people don't have to think about where their electricity comes from. they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does. using natural gas this power plant can produce enough energy for about 600,000 homes. generating electricity that's cleaner and reliable, with fewer emissions-- it matters. ♪ but add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we won't just g

i think the republicans, and i think even some of the tea party republicans, are looking at the pollingshutdown and realizing that jihadism doesn't sell. it may sell in a jerry manderred districts and primaries. republicans have lost three out of four of the past national elections and in the generic polls they have been down every single week for the last year except after the health care rollout train wreck. so this reflects a growing recognition that the extremism, while it's played well for their parochial primary political purposes, it's not selling at a national level. so this is a significant shift in terms of the extremist win of the republican party. >> you mentioned the primaries. republicans have more candidates to choose from than usual. doesn't mean they like them all. look at this difference between the two parties. 14% is the number of democrats who say they're unsatisfied with their current political candidate. when you go and lock at the republicans, that number jumps up to 41%. at a certain point, when you have half the senate republican caucus primary, you have guys l

republican activist, republican blogger, former mayor of new jersey, who was a buddy of the governor, chris christie, he had been given a political appointment to this agency, the one that runs the bridge. they testified later that when chris christie's old buddy, when he gave the order to close down fort lee's access to the bridge, that was an unprecedented request. they were never told to do anything like that before. and they were asked to keep quiet about it. they were asked if they could notify the town, maybe make a statement? the answer was apparently no, just forget about it. don't tell anybody about it. so fort lee is about to have a city-wide log jam of hell, and were given for notice? we were not to tell anybody about it? no, forget about it. no, just do it. don't tell anyone. that all happened reportedly two weeks after the mayor of fort lee rebuffed requests from chris christie's allies to endorse the governor's bid for re-election. was it an illusion, now, nobody is under any illusion about the new jersey politics, but really? shutting down whole towns and parts of bridg

congressman sean duffy told host and republican joe scarborough the republicans need to change their messaging so they can connect to people who are trying to. up the economic ladder. we have to actually take a message to where people are out we have moms that can pay the utility bill you can pay the mortgage so does our conservative ideology and philosophy actually help lift them out of the place through today and move them up the economic ladder we don't do a good job of presenting that message and we have to change how we're doing it this is the core of the problem that republicans face there is nothing in the republican party's platform that actually helps people move up the economic ladder while a good party platform only helps you when you're already rich so messaging doesn't mean a lot when your policies are designed to screw working americans and enrichment billionaires are part of the republican party's philosophy really just boils down to basic ideas tax cuts for the rich and social safety net cuts for everyone else neither of these ideas do anything to help america's worki

you're talking about republicans, poor republicans, getting health care, reverend al. and i think now that we have these positive stories after, let's be honest, six weeks or so of only horror stories, i think that the public opinion is going to turn and it's going to be very hard to demonize this program and take it away from people. >> but congresswoman, they're in a bad spot because they rooted against it, they went ahead with all they had against this, and now it is beginning to work and you're starting to see people tell positive stories, congresswoman. >> you know, i told them to get over it in a committee hearing, and they'd better get over it or pay a political price. >> now, joan, let me come back to you. we mentioned earlier that rick santorum was so desperate he attacked president obama's competence, but you're writing about something else he said yesterday. listen to this. >> i talked to one insurance company today that a third of their enrollees are over 60 years of age. those are the people signing up. and the folks who can keep their plans because they'r