look at the republican governors. two of the governors in those states were republican. both of them said no. look at republicans who were secretaries of state who oversaw the election, all of them said no. take a look at the republicans who were his judicial employees including people of the supreme court who could have interviewed -- intervened judicially. or the supreme court in texas they filed a lawsuit to intervened to get the electoral votes of five other states overturned. all of these justices that now. then you have what happened on capitol hill where a number of -- mike pence per could have said yes but he said no and republicans could have acted in lockstep and try to overturn the results. the overwhelming majority of the senate and large numbers of republican congressman said no. it's clear that had republicans and even a few republicans during this process, bowed to pressure and said yes to the president, we would have had a constitutional crisis in our democracy would be even weaker. host: so the indictments came down last week and it was the president ove

republicans. if you step back and are concerned about this country for your children and grandchildren, you have to say it is frustrating that republicans by and large refused to raise any taxes. we need more revenue. at the same time, it is frustrating to hear the president come out and say he will not touch social security and little care at all -- medicare at all. we need to make changes to save the benefits for future generations. host: congress is in the midst of passing spending bills, trying to avoid an economic deadline toward the end of the year. if that fails to happen, what do you think is the further impact considering what we've seen from the downgrade? guest: that is on everyone's mind, perhaps that is why fitch put it out right now. they did not say that explicitly, but there is already talk. are we going to have a government shutdown if we cannot get the agreement done by the end of september? people were saying the same thing about the debt ceiling back in may, they did reach that

the elites are the elites of the republican party opposing the engine costs money for the republican elite and supporting trump, and these are part of the political structure, but i will give you a point. trump himself said in his speech that recently they found white powder in the real white house, which probably should be i know that the file of the captain's case cannot be opened to see who it belonged to, always a part of the american presidency is found and i don't know who it belonged to and he said that it does not exist, but we are checking the file of the archive that he had illicit relations and business, he confessed in 2014 that is why he was discharged from the american army the issue was fired no one has shown his beauty because the power is actually a privilege and the power of the executive is in the hands of the father. i said that trump had the power of the executive branch . weaken the political dimensions because my personal opinion is that if trump can actually succeed as a representative of the republican party , he will defeat a very strong desire in 2024, kama

as conservative republicans we are constitutionallests. before the vote on impeachment where i thought we'd hit 25 because i talked to 25 people. i looked at those people that were going to vote for impeachment, and i recognized every one of them that ended up not voting that way. they always mentioned a concern what it meant for the re-election. >> congresswoman liz cheney was the third ranking republican in the house when she voted for impeachment because she was so concerned about where trump's big lie was leading the nation. >> you had local officials who were getting death threats. you had members of congress who said to me that they believe the president should be impeached after the 6th but that they were afraid to cast a vote that way because of their security, the security of their families. you know, that -- that is a place that we haven't been certainly since the civil war. and never when it -- when that threat of violence comes from a sitting president. >> and we're going to have to fight much harder. >> this will remain a canc

republicans are not going to be happy. they're not going to be satisfied unless hunter biden gets life imprisonment, death penalty, or commit suicide. only then will they be satiated and that is the truth. they are very bloodthirsty. this whole idea that hunter biden is the big bogeyman and not donald trump, who was president of the united states, people died in that riot. host: appreciate the call. final thoughts. guest: that is going to be the argument. it is not an apples to apples comparison and for no other reason than i hunter biden it was never president of the united states. republicans are trying to center their investigation to hunter biden more and more on the president himself rather than just his son. clearly in the absence of that family relationship, would any of these business arrangements be possible, but yes, it is possible and certainly, a possibility that once you move beyond republican primary electorate, that is not as engaging as a potable argument. host: james antle, read more at washington examiner

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but at least so far on the republican side, hey, republican party, how are you doing?turning out not to be a race at all, which means the only republican who appears to have any shot at all at running against president biden's the former guy. who as christy pointed out this weekend is likely to be out on bail in four different jurisdictions by the time of the first republican presidential debate, provided that they have one given that these are the contours of the republican presidential primary. the only person who the republican party appears capable to put up to run against biden is someone who is likely to be out on bail in as many as four different jurisdictions by the time the first republican debate happens, it is someone who is running for the presidency as a hail mary to dismantle the american legal system and constitutional structure, and thereby keep himself out of prison. to credibly field in this election against joe biden, if they really think that president biden is beatable. but that is where we are, with the state republican parties in five more or les

yes, i think republican voters i - think republican voters i haven't many republican voters are quiterticulated by governor christie. it doesn't mean it's the wrong position. i think the republican party does need to stand for continuing support for ukraine, that's a personal view, support for ukraine, that's a personalview, but support for ukraine, that's a personal view, but it's not a view, frankly, that a lot of republican primary voters have right now. and i think what it speaks to is this populist influence we see in the republican party in american politics more broadly. it is the ascendant possession, and that's driving what i think is a perspective for many republican primary voters that's quite divergent from what chris christie laid out the other night.— what chris christie laid out the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy — the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and _ the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and his _ the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and his view - the other night. you mentioned ramaswamy and his view on . the other night. you mentioned| ramaswam

, be aggressive overseas, and trump showed the republican leadership that the republican base is a lot less like that. the ukraine question highlighted that, there is an interesting bait on republican foreign policy. last night reflected it. host: what do you think about the decision to wait an hour before the trump questions,? guest: i like getting into policy matters. that is one way in which the debate can be most informative. we should ask what is our job? not just to provide entertainment but to drive debate. they take it seriously. where do these people stand? so starting with that instead of with trump i thought was a good decision. i'm glad they asked about trump. i was sad almost all of the candidates dodged it. they explained why they would be better. host: tim carney on the washington examiner, chris christie said that trump's behavior was beneath the dignity of the office. guest: he began by saying whether or not you think he should be charged, georgia and new york, the federal cases, all of the actions underlying these charges reflect life dust why he should not be the pre

he's not really what we would even have considered a republican before he decided to run for the republican party nomination. but she has turned the party into his vehicle. it now belongs to him, and it will be his as long as he wants it. so can you see any way that the republicans words choose him as its next presidential candidates? because the civil list, criminal activity and legal activity around i mean short of him deciding he doesn't want to be the nominate or some exit outside event. you know, a health problem or something like that, hard for me to see how he's not depressed and how he's not the republican presidential nominee in 20245. so i think thank you so much for joining us and that outlining that force me, galen, co founder of the lincoln project or the denver where the government is proposing legislation that would make it illegal to desecrate to how many books in public it would apply to the christian 5 of them, the jewish town, but there's no doubt that it's in response to a recent spite of public bindings of the muslim holy book, the corrupt denmark on neighboring sweden

, but republicans.e to other people situations. chiefly the bidens or hillary clinton. so that's why they do that. because while republicans may know mike pence to do a, thing with a really, really worried about is why did everybody else get away with stuff dame trump? so it's more than the january 6th. it's more to than that. >> i understand. there are several elements to this. for moderating that debate, i would ask ron. in the navy. if somebody from the top of the military to the bottom walked or left the service and talk with them highly classified documents were asked to return them, knowing didn't return them but obstructed the efforts of the government. wouldn't that person be prosecuted to the full extent of the law? >> and we really engaged in that substance tonight. >> lots more, head key moments and perspective on tonight's first republican candidates to make the case where they should be president. i need it cool at night. you trying to ice me out of the bed? baby, only on game nights. you k

which can be used in the republican primary.e makes it to the general election. what is something like that say about how the campaign is being run when it comes to what donors are concerned about? which is how they are spending money? >> that is a good question, it's one of those mysteries. from what i was able to tease out, and what i reported today in the messenger, is that only in the final weeks of the quarter that ended july 1st, or ended at the end of june, was that they had miscalculated how much money was coming in. and one of the reasons that they did that, is they were banking what they thought were pledges that were gonna come in, that never came. now pledges are kind of like a mary poppins term, it applies promises, it's easily made a broken, now desantis is going back to some of those people and saying hey look, pledging stuff in the past, they made some of the changes, they really need the money. why don't you give it to us. being told that the money is coming in, we heard that the money was coming in before, that

if you look at the republican base right now there's one that matters.ke donald trump, but they are kind of wondering if they should move on in order to help them win. this may be 5% they are open to hearing about it. >> donald trump can't lose if donald trump does lose, he has to attack the people that say he lost. so the republican establishment rigged this against me and he would care more about the general election of destroying whoever gets the nomination then whatever happens to the democrats, so whoever gets the nomination will have a two front war against donald trump and then a fight against the democrat. so it would make it very hard for desantis or anybody else to get into the white house. we have a little less than ten minutes left and a couple of more questions. i think that without myself as a reporter for the times position on this. the likelihood is great that whoever does that will have damage done to their own political career in doing so. the chances of that person winning are oblique. >> remember the campaign. it is a recipe for disas

is this a democrats versus republicans fight in ohio? or is this the kind of fight where it's clearly republican and the anti-abortion movement that is pushing this with a lot of support outside state billionaires and all that stuff, pushing the threshold to make it hardersh for people to vote for abortion rights in november. but on the other side of the fight is this the democratic party taking the lead in the organizing, or is this sort of more organic or more broad coalition than that? >> yeah, this is definitely more organic. one thing you've got doctors yo organized in a way they never have been before to protect reproductive rights. you've got organizations like red, white, and blue. dahlia and i were together a large group of red, white and blue a few weeks ago on a training session to how to get signatures for a ballot issue. how many women came up to us and wanted to tell us this is the first time they've ever been involved with politics in their lives, and we're talking utnot just younger women, we're talking about grandmothers

republicans. if you step back and are concerned about this country for your children and grandchildren, you have to say it is frustrating that republicans by and large refused to raise any taxes. we need more revenue. at the same time, it is frustrating to hear the president come out and say he will not touch social security and little care at all -- medicare at all. we need to make changes to save the benefits for future generations. host: congress is in the midst of passing spending bills, trying to avoid an economic deadline toward the end of the year. if that fails to happen, what do you think is the further impact considering what we've seen from the downgrade? guest: that is on everyone's mind, perhaps that is why fitch put it out right now. they did not say that explicitly, but there is already talk. are we going to have a government shutdown if we cannot get the agreement done by the end of september? people were saying the same thing about the debt ceiling back in may, they did reach that

republicans or democrats? host: republicans. you wrote about them. guest: i think it worked out pretty well for republicans. people did not think speaker mccarthy was going to be able to get a republican only vote in the house. he did. they got a little progress on work requirements, which is something that they wanted badly. president biden agreed to it. i think the republican house, in the way that it is handling the debt ceiling debate has done well in that regard. given the inflation situation, the effort to limit spending and control spending is something that needs to be done because federal spending is what is causing the rise in inflation. host: for the house comes back, they have to deal with pending bills. if they could come together --are you concerned about a shutdown resulting as a part of that? guest: we have gotten used to the possibility of a shutdown because the politicians cannot work it out in time to avoid that, so i think it could happen. that is politics. that is the way our democracy works. i think it is a better system than an

ohio, jonathan on the republican line. caller: yes. i am a republican.publican party nominates donald trump, i will vote for joe biden. donald trump is a crook. people have died from his lies. if the republican party nominates him, i will vote for joe biden. host: dewayne, westbrook, maine, independent line. caller: i have been watching c-span since the early 80's when brian lam was there. i have to echo the sentiment of the pennsylvania carter -- pennsylvania caller. more americans identify as independents. starting the show with a question about foreign policy. both parties supported u.s. imperialism. we need to have parties in this country. we need to have representation. it does not represent the establishment of washington which was where brick capture. you do not give a voice to -- americans in this country are supposed to be a democracy but you only focus on team read and blue. there are both corporate co-opted. you have joe biden who is corrupt and has been in office for for years. we thought donald trump was corrupt. need to represent all the pr

is our local republican party. but he doesn't do a lot of the dirty work. he has people that do that for him. so this week we saw the 1st debates among potential republican presidential candidates and trump chose not to attend and still dominated the events. how could non trump republicans break through when the trump's cause is so dominant? well at this point i don't even know that that's possible. um if you look at donald trump support along with ronda sanchez, the florida governor, who's numbers who's 2nd and then bit back around the strongly young business person . they have about 85 percent of the vote between them and they are all very aligned in a world view in policies, in the way that they would govern. that they say that they want to govern the way they see about all, you know, american foreign policy. and that leads about 15 percent of republican voters for anybody else. and so at this point, i would say it's almost impossible the donald trump should be once the nomination wouldn't get it next year. so i

i'm a republican.esidential race because of the criminal charges he faces, specifically the documents case. as we approach the fall and the one-year mark to the 2024 election, new reporting from nbc news is highlighting the efforts of both parties to court what is now the fastest-growing demographic in the united states, asian-americans. with the dnc saying it's already spent six figures on ads targeting the demographic. and the rnc is opening community centers in california and around the nation designed to turn out the vote. joining us now with more on the story, nbc news reporter sahil kapur. what can you tell us? >> not only are they america's fastest-growing demographic, asian-americans are also the fastest-growing share of the electorate. they provided crucial votes for president biden in swing states. in 2020, 72% of asian-americans voted for biden. 28% voted for former president trump. turnout spiked from 49% to 59% in battleground states that decided the election. they were up by more than 300

my book american psychosis you know makes the argument think proves the argument that republican republican relationship with extremism goes back seven decades it's waxed its waned but that for that time period throughout that time period the gop has both encouraged and exploited extremism. it didn't start. we are with with the tea party, which is kind of the period that you're talking about. it didn't start with newt gingrich, which was another form of extremism in the nineties. and it started back in the fifties with mccarthyism. and then, you know, the relationship, the republican party, some of it and and the john birch society, which was basically outright paranoia that. the government is riddled with secret enemies, communists, dwight eisenhower was a communist agent that the commies have infiltrated basically every school, every business of every part of government trade unions. and you'd have the the director of the john birch society, a guy named welch, saying the communist party controls 80% of the united states. it was basically cunanan without babies and sex trafficking. i mean,

the republicans are going to yours. but in our constitution, in regarding documents, we have an independent judiciary in this country. and you see this as a reflection of how americans of los trust in our institutions. and this is something that happened very rapidly under the fall. it didn't start with trump, but it's something he has really benefit from. and i think the judge, i really can't in florida who had trumps other case. she wasn't as, as i let me put it this way, defend as hard as this next judge is going to be assigned this indictment case. a 3rd indictment because this amount of ball a vomit pointed jobs. so you'll see republicans bring this up over and over. and it's really hard for the country because we are, again, we have an independent judiciary in this country out of could from face jail type. if convicted on any of these charges, it can, i have to explain to, to those of us who, who aren't familiar with the, the way that the american justice system works. the way that the political system was kind of

the republicans are.o want to talk about just some magnificent figures in this indictment, i just think back to 2001, when rudy giuliani was america's mayor and there are people who worked with rudy giuliani, john avlon was a speech writer close to george usually henry. rudy giuliani could've had a statue for erected for him in about 2002 or 2003 in the center of times square. that is how popular he was, and now he's being indicted. in atlanta georgia. you have lawyers who are involved in this, you have bail bondsmen who are involved in, this and at the top of the scheme you have the president of the united states. i know that we have writer strikes and everything going on in hollywood, but you could not jump the shark like this with his indictment and when you look at how detailed this is, when you look at how -- they went out of the way to do to abuse people, determined people, and when you look at the fact that they were breaking into facilities, that they were going into voting booths, that they have

i don't think the republicans can make a without. i think inflation will be top of mind in both primary and general election. the gop will probably choose to attack biden rather than each other on that and the other piece of the picture is the ira which gave subsidies to green industries, green energy and so on. that is a key focus for the gop. that's equally economic culture were the gop base dislike initiatives that are on the green economy. the gop propose to cut the entire ira bill. in terms of deficit reduction given the gop is focusing on tax cuts of focusing on the other direction. they will try to look at the ira to reduce spending their and it won't have a big dent on the deficit. they will focus on rolling back initiatives. >> special issues intersecting, especially thinking about college debt, education loan forgiveness plan that was just stopped and there seems to be among the gop candidates, you would think there would be orthodoxy and low taxes but also an increasing dialogue about income inequality, labor unions and i

host: john on the republican -- joan on the republican line calling from cleveland.d morning. i do not have my notes together. host: it is all right. whatever you want to say is fine. caller: ok. i think president trump was the best president we had. he had everything in order. his personal life, i do not want to go into it, that is his life. the going to personal life -- if we go into personal life about trump, we should go back to jill biden when he was dating joe before she was divorced. he did not even acknowledge his seventh grandchild. he is not thinking. whoever is giving him the information are putting him on a bad track. every time i turn around he is on vacation. this world is a total mess for what he is doing. our guys locked up in prison have no air conditioning. they have nothing. they are up in their cells. all these illegals coming over and going to the state, they are getting taken care of better than our own people. host: 10 more minutes on topic, the arraignment of donald trump. and comments on social media this morning about the arraignment today.

and we have seen republicans starting with the republican national committee, right, really started to 0 in on some of these communities of color and states like california, the asian american community, the black community, but hispanic community. republican party has made and roads with hispanic community, particularly in florida with that cuban american vote. so i think there is a chance, and i think they see someone as like a tim scott or nikki haley. or if it's a promise for kwame, being more symbolic of what america looks like. but there is that really hard core populace part of the party that feels so drawn to someone like donald trump, that there's a connect there. dave, doug bergen, governor in north dakota. i met him the other day here in washington at the 4 seasons hotel, nancy place, he's a billionaire governor and he's he to qualify to get on stage. apparently, he basically said, hey, don't need a dollar to me so you can get enough of the qualifying numbers of people, $40000.00 people and cross 20 sites, $200.00 a month, 20 states and get it all the details. but he'll send

you kind to see where the republican, where the republican primary elect shirt is. right now. i was with mike france on january 6th. you damn righty. did the right thing. that was the right thing for our cost to sion in the country. and there should be no debate about it within the republican primary or anywhere else for that matter, but all of them accept visa, hutchinson, former governor barrick, arkansas, you know, essentially said that they would be supportive of donald trump, even if convicted of serious federal crimes and then he would, they would still support donald trump in that in that case. and so it raises this interesting question which i think conflicts a little bit with what you said shelby, how can both things be true? how can they both authentically, seriously want to be present of united states and still be so obsequious to the last president who's facing so many federal indictments? i think the simple answer is you look at the republican based as a whole, and when i'm on the ground talking to voters, which, you know, we've been to south carolina, new hampshi

republicans. i do believe donald trump is dragging them down to a historic defeat in next year's elections. >> before i let you go, i just want to quickly ask you, i know you've been traveling around the country talking to a lot of voters. are people asking you about the indictments, and about the legal issues? or is the majority of the conversation about other issues? >> well, people are asking about both. people understand that climate and democracy are now intertwined, for example, as issues. choice and democracy, freedom and democracy are intertwined as issues. the vast majority of the people reject donald trump, biden of course beaten by more than 7 million votes. we are just adding 15 million new young voters in 2024, the question is, will people's right to vote be respected and honored? or are the republicans going to be able to continue with the gerrymandering, the voter suppression tactics, the right-wing judicial activism, which has nullified so many peoples voting rights. people underst

it does have resonance with the republican primary electorate. host: into your point -- mike pence's point with elections being about the future, does this back and forth between the campaigns provide an opening for candidates who will talk -- not only talk, but propose about the future and break away from the arguments of what the current indictments are all about, or with the biden family is doing instead, focusing on issues in the campaign? guest: most voters do not want a rematch between trump and biden. that is not a popular set of choices. but if you look at polls of democratic and republican primary voters at the moment, the current trajectory is to provide that rematch. both men have healthy leads over their primary opponents. president biden does not really have a top-tier challenger of any kind. donald trump's lead over ron desantis is almost as big as president biden's lead is over robert kennedy junior. if one creates an opening for a centrist third party, whether it is no labels or someone else, some ambitious person may see a trump

candidates, republican voters, did not seem to like republican candidates that were centering their campaignsut that particular piece. and that frankly the whole thing ron desantis built his campaign on. it's something he likes campaigning. he doesn't like tail politics and he's not good at it, which is why we are seeing these painful interactions with voters on the trail. >> not just for voters, simone, but with kids. ben, i've got to ask, desantis was on fox earlier today, and he said, oh, it's all the fault of the corporate media, the left who misrepresent me and represent my state and make me say things like slaves got personal benefits from being blacksmith, et cetera, et cetera. all candidates especially on the right like to match the media. you know, it's better than -- but desantis, he's in a different world when it comes to media bashing. it's not working for him, though, is it? >> i think one of the really interesting things is he had a really specific philosophy and belief which is that the mainstream media was kind of over. he could speak to select conservative outlets within this

not voting republican.nd also just like recent presidential elections, this is going to come down to the margin of victory in a small number of swing states. and in the aggregate, that is probably 10,000, maybe 100,000 votes at most. we are talking about in georgette where he called up -- it's going to be the same thing again in georgia, arizona, nevada, michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. again, some of those voters, blue-collar voters who switched from obama to trump, trump trump did surprisingly well with minority voters, hispanics, blacks, asians have been shifting votes to republicans and trump. so i would be very cautious about saying he is completely flawed and he has no chance of winning. biden has plenty of laws, as we have been discussing. he is not popular. people are frustrated over inflation. so it's certainly conceivable that in a one-on-one race trump could beat biden if he just beats him in the swing states. adrian: julie, would you agree with that, if it came down to a rematch they would

the cynicism really stayed among the republican strategist class. i look back into the book and think about the interviews i had with the strategist is that if you look back at the obama era there's a lot of people in republican politics who got comfortable advancing things they knew were not true because the base really wanted it. there wasol always a little bitf this and politics surely on both sides. but the degree to which there was this anger and vitriol towards obama during the obama years that was partially bite race also by the conservative media ecosystem made republican strategists feel like they had to provide this red meat to that base to make sure the voters were excited that they were donating, they would turn out. and so there was a big disconnect began to expand between the people running the campaigns and the base voters. that disconnect help perpetuate a lot of the anger among the voters themselves and also got a lot of the strategists really comfortable going along with stuff they knew was not true. when i wrote about the game i w

he's not really what we would even have considered a republican before he decided to run for the republican party nomination. but she has turned the party into his vehicle. it now belongs to him, and it will be his as long as he wants it. so can you see any way that the republicans was chosen as its next presidential candidates because of all these criminal activity and legal activity around i mean short of him deciding he doesn't want to be the nominate or some exit outside event, you know, health problem or something like that hard for me to see how he's not depressed and how he's not the republican presidential nominee in 2024 fast. and i think thank you so much for joining us in the outlining that force me, galen, co founder of the lincoln project. are the kinds of denver where the government is proposing legislation that would make it illegal to desecrate to how many books in public would apply to the christian 5 of them, the jewish town. but there's no doubt that it's in response to a recent spite of public bindings of the muslim holy book, the correct denmark on neighboring sweden ha

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just two days, on wednesday, republican candidates will meet on a stage in milwaukee for the first republican primary debate, this cycle. it's also the week that the republican front runner announced he's skipping the debate, is required to surrender to authorities in fulton county, georgia. if that combination of things doesn't perfectly capture the state of the republican party right now, i don't really know what does. today, donald trump's lawyers met with fulton county prosecutors to discuss the surrender over the 13 fennell -- brought by district attorney, fani willis. where prosecutors say he orchestrated a criminal enterprise to steal the 2020 election in georgia. after roughly an hour discussing the terms, the attorneys along with fani willis came to an agreement over the ex presidents bonds. an atlanta judge set the bond for trump at $200,000. the order also includes some striking language, which stuck out to me. a stark warning for the ex president. it says, quote, the defendant, donald j trump, sat shall perform no act to intimidate any person known to him or to her to be known to

but only 28% of republicans do.blicans say it is a minor threat area some say it is not a threat at all. >> to talk about climate change remains difficult for a number of conservative lawmakers who feel that their constituents are apathetic. >> she covers climate and environment the new york times. she says this trend comes as some republican leaders have shifted to acknowledge the scientific consensus on what is driving planet -- climate change. >> they say it is happening. it is driven by fossil fuels area the deep division is over what to do with it. >> clearly the climate is changing. not as dramatically as the radical agenda would like you to believe. >> they want to shift away from bernal -- burning fossil fuels. >> fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. >> many republicans said able to roll back the biden administration's climate initiatives. it directs billions of dollars in subsidies to deploy those technologies. >> what you hear often from conservatives is we can address climate change and th

>> well, if the republican national committee in the top leadership of the republican party were serious about winning the leadership and winning majorities in the senate and maintaining the majority in the house, they were clearly not won donald trump at the top because they know that he is simply toxic among independent and swing voters and competitive districts and states. it's as simple as that. every one of them knows it. whether or not they said publicly is another matter. but they all know that donald trump -- underperformed in 2022 in the house races, and so they know he is a disaster. just look at pennsylvania, all these trump endorsed candidates for example performed so abysmally. not just in pennsylvania but in michigan, arizona, herschel walker in arizona. the path is clear to everyone that trump is making losing great again. as long as the party continues to simply defend the former president and embrace him, they are empowering him and thereby lowering their ability to win. they all know it. >> but tim, aren't they buxton? they are in a very difficult position. donald trump

then what is good for the republican party when republicans have a responsibility to govern? it goes poorly because that requires compromise. it requires new ones, and those are bad things for conservative me. i would not want to be a mainstream republican lawmaker right now. i think it would be very hard to be a moderate republican in this climate when you have conservative media. conservative talk radio, setting an agenda that is a very disciplined, no compromise agenda. it's going to make the job of a moderate lawmaker, very difficult republicans who do not pay to the extraordinary pressure exerted on them in washington today. you know who they are, their tomorrow's leaders. trump is the model going forward? who will want to run for office for the republican party, knowing full well that you have these voices on the right. who are going to say you can't compromise, you can't possibly negotiate. it's our way or the highway. and if you dare step one, step to the center, you're punished. the only did that conservative talk radio is hindering, rather than helping the republica

networks in the republican primary.'t try to beat trump and think you are going to get the nomination and tack back to the middle. you're so far gone from the middle that there is no amount of tacking back to the middle to make you palatable to the broad sweep of the american public who find what ron desantis has done in florida to be objectionable. >> we talk about the impact this has on the elections. the impact about the web as a nation -- weaponization of government having on our democracy, there is a striking number i have to ask you about. americans were asked about their overall confidence in the fbi. it is now at an all-time low. among democrats, it has gone up four points. this is back in 2018. down 12 points among republicans. it has tanked a whopping 24 points. it is part of a larger point. doesn't that number were you? >> the number one important statistic has been two generations if they do the right thing most of the time. 75% said yes. 12%, 19%, it bounces around. phenomenally low. imagine walking around

republican side. republican voters care about the issues and the issues are what they are going to win on. democrats have nothing but fear and claiming racism and claiming climate change. that is the only thing democrats can talk about. it is all fantasy. republicans are talking about real issues that matter to people at home. that is what is going to resonate with the voters who don't particularly care about the political nonsense. >> exactly right. thank you so much, charlie. talk to you later. >>> up next, the trickiest dance these candidates will need to pull off tonight. acellus courses for parents independently homeschooling their children. our complete k through 12 homeschool program includes courses in math, science, social studies, reading and language arts. it also includes electives such as music, 3d printing and programing. power homeschool has really transformed our child's experience and allows her to work at her own pace. visit our website at power homeschool dot org to learn more and s

a lot of republicans are seeing it the same way.u are right, they claim -- they try to make this claim it is to save the constitution, protect the constitution, you have the secretary of state saying it's about abortion, it's about abortion. the head of right to life and ohio, it is about abortion. you are right, they're afraid of what is going to happen in november. they should be. it was overreaching. i have contended all along, ever since the supreme court decision, dobbs, i don't think a lot of republicans ever wanted to actually win it all, right? they were going to then face this, the uprising. they have really underestimated how many voters are going to show up. what is interesting as well, one thing you did mention, and i am sure you are aware of, earlier this year, they said no more august elections. it is a waste of money. this could be $20 million, this stunt, $20 million. early in the year, no more elections. it is bad for democracy, it is bad for our government. here we are, republicans are, once again, putting this on

independents and some republicans.happened in ohio, the referendum in ohio, their extremism on abortion rights is scaring people, and i think that is to the benefit of democrats. but here's the deal. the republican party stands for nothing anymore. we know what they're against, but they're for nothing. and i get it, they're mad that the economy's doing better. they're mad that there's record job growth and inflation is coming down. faster in this country than any other country in the world, and it's inconvenient for them. they're mad that joe biden's actually doing a good job. so they have no place else to go but down these dark holes of conspiracy theories and this nonsense. >> so can i ask you really quickly because we're almost out of time about part of the job and there's a lot of folks out there, you were talking about it in the break, about the financial as well as personal suffering people are going through because of the effects of climate change. you have a legislative priority to support american farmers, to