wrong and we don't like me and we think that you should apologize for and retract it but the idea is resa kind of say look as active citizens we're going to get engaged and get involved and we're going to basically do the same thing if someone in those in hate speech we're not going to encourage other people to hate them or make derogatory remarks about them what we're going to do is really politely just say hey guys this is really really horrible thing to say it's unjustifiable it's racist this is the kind of thing that we saw happening that does we know we shouldn't be engaging this is not the society that we want to be living in are you going to be part of. of what we really stand for in these in our democratic societies we just place to be liberal just place to be diverse so are you going to are you standing for something else the idea is really to kind of house people who are engaging in this in highlight what they really say and what it really might mean what they really standing for and restoring civility in death land the society if we want to move forward and progress this is hum

. >> rose: resa brooks, tell me where you think the debate is now? >> i think the debate to some extent is in the wrong place right now. i think it's actually important to draw a distinction between drones which is just another weapons in surveillance platform versus u.s.-targeted killing policy. what people are up set about and rightly so is the approach the administration is taken to targeted killings which amounts to a we can kill anyone, anywhere, any time for reasons which we won't tell you about and a process that is secret based on evidence that we won't even describe to you the kinds of evidence we're going to be looking at. that's what people are up set about and what they should be up set about because that's pretty scary. drones as such, i think mike sell quite right, obviously, they create a perception that they're a lower cost than using force that is probably a false perception. but in a sense, the legal and the moral issues here are not different because of drones. we would be facing the same legal and moral issues if we were carrying