kate cotter is the founder and ceo of the resilient building council in australia — a country that frequentlynces wildfires. she said the damage in los angeles was "eye—watering". la fires are absolutely catastrophic. we haven't seen single fire events in australia, you know, more than a few thousand building losses. so seeing that go over the 10,000 building amount is just eye watering, it is so devastating. so, what we find is similar is that fires burn homes down in the same way, they need the same things, fuel and wind and steep terrain, and both countries have got those things that make them fire prone. what is, i guess, different is that la has got very dense populations within very close reach of that risk, and with those high winds and canyons and things, the los angeles landscape has added extra risk that has caused these fires to destroy far more property than we have seen in events in australia. how do you think these homes have been built with fire resiliency seemingly not in mind? ., ., , resiliency seemingly not in mind? . ., , ., mind? the areas are quite urban and fire resilie