think most people having read your very powerful writing and seeing the movie you're involved in, "restrepoou would have been in favor of a more rapid withdraw. it seems you're saying not only do we have to deal with al qaeda, the stated first rational for our presence in afghanistan, but we need to be involved in nation building and the traditional sense of houses, the infrastructure of a nation. you're saying something even more subtle, you used the word the government is a criminal syndicate as though somehow we need to get the corruption out of the afghan government before we can leave. describe as i've seen you do it before, describe the actuality of the corruption, how granular it is from the bottom up to the top in afghanistan. >> well, it is from top to bottom. at the local level, policemen are demanding bribes from the afghan people on up to district governors and provincial governors, right on up to hamid karzai who i'm going from memory here, but there was a criminal -- a corruption investigation that was tracking down some very prominent people in the government, friends of karz