the average couple at retiermtd have put in $110,000 into medicare and will take out $350,000.parent in this country would reject that. for us to get out of our problems we have to reform medicare. we don't have to cut it. all we have to do is reform it. one thing i can guarantee is medicare won't be the same five years from now as it is today regardless of what aarp says because we can't borrow the money to pay for it. we can't get out of the problems we're in, erin, unless we have the courage and the statesmen to do that and that means to tell arp to take a hike and apr to take a hike. >> on this show we couldn't agree more on that. will it me ask you about your cuts on medicare. your plan calls for a 20% cut in medicare, medicaid somehow. i want to ask you -- >> actually that's not accurate. that's not accurate at all. we put an earnings test on medicare. that means the people who would be receiving the cut would be those that are wealthiest in this country. >> so you're saying a cut in overall spending but not necessarily in benefits. >> yeah, you're not going to see a cut

the average couple at retiermtd have put in $110,000 into medicare and will take out $350,000. every grandparent in this country would reject that. for us to get out of our problems we have to reform medicare. we don't have to cut it. all we have to do is reform it. one thing i can guarantee is medicare won't be the same five years from now as it is today regardless of what aarp says because we can't borrow the money to pay for it. we can't get out of the problems we're in, erin, unless we have the courage and the statesmen to do that and that means to tell arp to take a hike and apr to take a hike. >> on this show we couldn't agree more on that. will it me ask you about your cuts on medicare. your plan calls for a 20% cut in medicare, medicaid somehow. i want to ask you -- >> actually that's not accurate. that's not accurate at all. we put an earnings test on medicare. that means the people who would be receiving the cut would be those that are wealthiest in this country. >> so you're saying a cut in overall spending but not necessarily in benefits. >> yeah, you're not going t