often to get any type of care up in those areas and it is very remote and we also have a lot of retirries, in more remote areas who can also benefit and even though they are in the out lying areas of the bay area when you see the map that was provided in here, that if they are a urgent care facility, that are within, 100 miles of san francisco that covers a great deal of the retiree membership as well and so i would like to request that we take a look at a broader scope and that we don't also forget our folks up in the hetch hetchy and the people down in the area that are out of the range of the hmos but do need urgent care, thank you. >> thank you. >> any other public comment? >> all right, seeing none, next item please? >> item 11, discussion item, report on vendors on medical loss ratio refunds, if any, hss vendors. >> good afternoon, heather united healthcare, we did go through this with the team on the plan and we did check against it, there is no rebate from united healthcare that is relative to this. and we provieed them with the number that they can call and also, william, from yo

be specific to retirees, we are actually in the hall and often i am the only one active, and the retirris in that class and they are welcome but i will acknowledge that we have not gotten out the enews but stephanie figured out how to get it for august and, so retirees might not have known about these classes but that will be the primary way of letting the people know where the classes are and retirees are welcome to come to the classes. >> i think that the article, because of what was said at the board and two articles ago, that the expression was that, it is primarily, for active's first, and then retirees sort of later and so i am glad to hear that there are many, because i think that these are the kinds of classes as well as yoga that attract a lot of retirees, but if they know that they are open to them as well, to get the information out and put it in the newsletter and we would like to to that and i know that there are many who are very asked, and i will let them know that it is open to everyone. >> okay. >> and good afternoon, bob, the chair of the public employee committee and ex