. >> reuel hit on it point which is a discussion of what the brotherhood is as a international today.is an international -- i take take it be somewhere in between. it is not a top-down organization where the general guide in egypt directs all the parties and they do what he says however you can't dismiss it as a purely sort of movement in inward along and sort of a only have a common interest and sort of a club so to speak. you can see that in a number of the ways. you can see that with the flotilla that approach gaza back in 2010. if you study the roster the characters on the flotilla you can see brothers from all these different branches of the brotherhood from jordan and egypt and britain they came together for this event in a highly coordinated fashion. that suggests he may a greater degree of coordination between these entities and sort of a social club or movement. the second thing is you could see it and make the finance the organization internationally where they channeled money to hamas. is amazing to watch everything from the u.s. across the u.s. in the middle east where the

. >> reuel hit on it point which is a discussion of what the brotherhood is as a international today. is an international -- i take take it be somewhere in between. it is not a top-down organization where the general guide in egypt directs all the parties and they do what he says however you can't dismiss it as a purely sort of movement in inward along and sort of a only have a common interest and sort of a club so to speak. you can see that in a number of the ways. you can see that with the flotilla that approach gaza back in 2010. if you study the roster the characters on the flotilla you can see brothers from all these different branches of the brotherhood from jordan and egypt and britain they came together for this event in a highly coordinated fashion. that suggests he may a greater degree of coordination between these entities and sort of a social club or movement. the second thing is you could see it and make the finance the organization internationally where they channeled money to hamas. is amazing to watch everything from the u.s. across the u.s. in the middle east where th

. >> reuel hit on it point which is a discussion of what the brotherhood is as a international today. is an international -- i take take it be somewhere in between. it is not a top-down organization where the general guide in egypt directs all the parties and they do what he says however you can't dismiss it as a purely sort of movement in inward along and sort of a only have a common interest and sort of a club so to speak. you can see that in a number of the ways. you can see that with the flotilla that approach gaza back in 2010. if you study the roster the characters on the flotilla you can see brothers from all these different branches of the brotherhood from jordan and egypt and britain they came together for this event in a highly coordinated fashion. that suggests he may a greater degree of coordination between these entities and sort of a social club or movement. the second thing is you could see it and make the finance the organization internationally where they channeled money to hamas. is amazing to watch everything from the u.s. across the u.s. in the middle east where th

military and the islamists, some power-sharing arrangement, i think is, perhaps, i'm curious to hear what reuel has to say, is perhaps not opening it up for the type of discourse that would open up the middle east to real reform. >> a quick word on the ghanoushi who has interested me for a long time. he's a muslim-western hybrid and i don't think he knows what he believes. like a lot of these guys, they're making it up as they go along and you have to have an extreme tolerance for withstanding the blatant contradictions in their thought. because those contradictions will paralyze you. you know, and he used the benefit of french education so he can tolerate contradictions vastly better than we can but it's still, we'll see where he goes. i suspect, it will have a lot of work cut out for them. he is, you can imagine, he's interesting to listen to, unlike a lot of these guys. that's why he gets a lot of western attention, you can actually talk to him, a leads to b leads to c leads to d, sort of. on the egyptian military and the brotherhood, the primary reason there is conservatism. it's a known. t