reva and dean are back with us once again.he first question an owner of a paul mitchell partner school. >> what are some of the most creative ways you've gone about obtaining capital for your company? >> robbing a bank. >> that could help. >> looking for creative here. >> yeah. >> we, a lot of small business owners are looking for money, looking for capital. something i do, look for partners and not necessarily equity partners, but you know, i wanted to do like an advertising campaign in the philadelphia area, i couldn't afford to do it. i couldn't get financing to do something like that so i brought on a couple of people in a like-minded field and we all chipped in to do something like that. i'm not talking about going into business with people or bringing in somebody to take stock of your company, if there's a piece of equipment to buy, something you can share with others, you can raise capital that way, it can work. >> that's really smart. >> it depends what you're raising money for and what kind of business. she has some h

and by reva & david logan. committed to investigative journalism as the guardian of the public interest. additional funding is provided by the park foundation. committed to raising public awareness. and by the frontline journalism fund. with grants from the from the hagler family and scott nathan and laura debonis. >> it's small town america. it's football games on friday nights. >> everybody gets along, everybody knows everybody. this is a nice country community. >> corsicana is a wonderful place to live, but every town has their bad people in it, and bad things happen in every town. so we're no different from anybody else. >> it was the 23rd of december. "the price is right" was on, that was what i was watching. two or three of the girls went out on the back patio and come running in the house, and said, "mamma, i think sheila's house is on fire." i run to the front and out the door, and that's when i seen todd at his front door, and he started screaming, "my babies. oh, my babies, my babies are burning." >>

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. >> reva says those documents include details about family history and drug and alcohol addictions whichelps the therapist build an adequate treatment program. >> so instead of treating him here and also in rehabilitation to make him sober in the time he's in treatment, we would miss that aspect and theoretically miss the major part of the case. >> and miss the opportunity to keep violent offenders hurting others. violent high-risk offenders like john gardner need more supervision, more counseling and more did you go screening compared to low-risk offenders. >> if you have someone who is low risk, you could communicate that to parole and parole could spend less resources on that offender than they would the high risk offender. but we get no collaboration from law officials on that. >>> when the hospital bill arrives, the sticker shock could set you back. but did you know you can bargain down the cost of your medical bills? 75% of patients that do save hundreds, even thousands, of dollars. right here on monday night, we'll going to show you how to negotiate your medical bills. >>> the gia

reva lasonsky is founder and president of grow biz media. she has a column at "allbusiness.com. and president of the marks group, writes a column for "the new york times." good to see you. >> good to be here. >> clearly in batting my hazel eyes. >> it worked. >> i was like -- >> you were really in your element there. >> especially the mets hat. >> that was fun. negotiating is hard. it's really hard if you're uncomfortable with it. but it's something you can learn. you think you're good at it? >> no, i don't. in fact, the fact that i think that i'm not probably makes me worse at it because i think i psych myself out. >> it's try. a lot of it is about confidence. >> and that guy, when you were talking about trying to get him down on the price of the fish, he went silent on you. which i'm -- is a tactic because you're compelled to say, okay, i'll give you -- because somebody has to fill the silence. and generally, that's me. >> i've got to tell you something, j.j. it's like an expertise like anything else. those guys, when you watch them, these guys negotiate. they're selling and b

. >> rose: so reva ridge won two. >> and failed to one won. >> i think he lost the preakness. >> rose: the middle. but so they -- >> so they had some degree of success working together and had a very good relationship. but you know, as far as what credit someone should or shouldn't get for secretariat, i'm never forget when we were shooting out on what was meant to be the chenery family stables and farm ranch, eddie was there the groom. and he was telling me one day that he used to take him out and you know, gallop him in the mornings. and talked about it for a long time. and then i said so what, i mean, what did that feel like under you. and he said that felt like you were just on a big, big motorcycle. and all you had to do was go like that. >> rose: that's great. >> it's fantastic. he had such a power and speed. >> and self-possession. >> rose: self-possession. >> absolutely. >> self-possession which is a quality that we all hope for in our children. and penny, it is funny because she loved riffa ridge so much, her horse that won the kentucky derby the year before with lucien. but