cornerstone of our modern understanding of the universe it's all of a renowned theoretical physicist color revelli joins me from ontario in canada carla thanks so much for coming back on the show if remotely before we even get to the book although it's mentioned in the book tell me about your concerns about pseudo science given the low vaccine take up in supposedly sophisticated western european nations. thank you for having me back it's a real pleasure and very happy yes in fact in my book there are pages about come on people don't believe in. sin trust trust the experts books about quantum mechanics and they so much want to stuff out there quantum medicine quantum these clinton that. please listen to the people who know these things go rescale a life when it's about medicine. yeah but you say people don't trust x. words although i. can't come with being an expert himself given how your book opens up in this barren island in the northeast 23 years old and he formulates a theory that you say has never been wrong tell me about what helgoland the title of your book what it what is it. yeah. well hei