december 17th meeting you have for consideration the major phase approval and seem tick design and revital ization is a part and a predevelopment loan action and all of these are really critical actions august of 2014 and we can commencing on the vertical for approximately 500 units of which are complete replacement vacant parking lots by january of 2015 we do plan to have a meeting in the community on january 7th provided it works for your schedule and we've secured the facility. and that meeting would start to allow for community attendance at 4 p.m. so you will get more information from staff on that but just to mark your calendars for january 7th we'll do that in the bay view and that concludes my report thank you very much. next item. >> item 9 questions and matters madam chair. >> it's 2 p.m. and there's a groundbreaking before. now, was there an e-mail something went out on that. >> if it hasn't gone out it will go out shortly. >> okay. carpool? >> we can only drive 2 at a time. okay. and we have informal item in our packets on blocks 2 and 4. i had a minor question i'll ask you right now s