. >> yeah, it's a lot of e-commerce transactions happening 'cause revolico is cuba's answer to craigslist. >> okay. >> so the fact that they were even there is sort of a big deal. and like i said, you know, you have the situation, for example, with travelucion. from june 2014 to '15, they tripled the amount of transactions and also people going on the website. >> we got about 30 seconds left before we take our first break. the sharing economy means you really kind of need an internet that works, and in cuba right now, that's pretty much >> do you see one impacting the other, where these companies say, "yeah, i want to get it going, but if that means getting your telecommunications up and running, we'll help you do that, as well"? are you seeing that? >> yeah, exactly. much of what's happening is basically commerce from the outside, so especially the situation with the online transactions. it's basically cuba-driven, but it's still happening outside the island. it's gonna take some time before you start seeing more transactions within cuba because of the very poor internet infrastructure.