, chancellor rhee, and i'm thinking, this is strange. usually when i walk into schools the kids are looking at me like who's the chinese lady walking around? [laughter] so they're hugging me, and they're taking tire picture -- their picture with me, and i felt a little strange. so i started talking to one of the kids, and one young man i said, okay, what elementary school did you go to? and i said, do you think that that school prepared you for the rigors here at souza? and he said, well, it's really different. i said, show? he said -- how so? he said, well, the teachers here teach. and i said, okay, what does that mean? he said, well, they really teach us to think outside the box. [laughter] and this is a sixth grader who's saying this, right? so it was interesting just to sort of hear from the kids' perspective. they were all telling me what they thought about both their elementary school experience, how it differed from their middle school experience, they could articulate what the differences were and how they felt, you know, differe

, chancellor rhee.sually when i walk in the schools on the kids are looking at me like a chinese lady is walking around. so they are hugging me and taking there's pictures of me. i thought it was a little strange. so i started talking to some of the kids. i said so, what elementary school did you go to? i said, do you think that cool prepared you for the rigors here at the sousa? she said well, it's really different. she said well, the teachers here teach. and i said okay, what does that mean? she said they really teach us to think outside the box. and this is a sixth grader who is famous. it was interesting to hear from the kids do. they were all telling me what they thought about booker elementary school experience, how it differed from their middle-school experience. they could articulate what the differences were. >> next up i'm going to let michelle interview the kids. if i could just jump in with a quick question here because it was alluded to the high school dilemma, if you will. when michelle to

is fundamentally different than my view. >> reporter: michelle rhee, who now runs a reform think tankys weingarten is right to take on teacher tenure but wrong to give the worst teachers so much time to appeal. >> and i don't think that we can continue to have processes and procedures in place that allow an ineffective teacher to stay in a classroom for years and years. >> reporter: weingarten cannot force her ideas on her membership, but when any national teachers' union starts to discussing the best way to fire its worst members, that's a conversation many school officials never thought they'd have. wyatt andrews, cbs news, washington. >> couric: and coming up next, a status report on women in america. women in america. einto romantic. ♪ an accidental touch can turn ordinary into something more. moments can change anytime -- just like that. and when they do men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven, low-dose tablet you take every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment i

and somehow people thought it was the rhee p.r. press machine. it was the lack thereof, actually. we naively thought we were going to put our heads down. we're going to work hard and do the right thing and we're going to produce results and that is really what matters. this making sure that we focus on the right things and we're producing results. and i think that we very much underestimated the power that the media would have in shaping the message. and so what we ended up with was a situation where the teachers were sort of -- they were getting messages and they were reading things on the newspaper or on the blogs, and they were getting the message and the communication shaped in their head and we -- this is our fault. we did not do our part to sort of send a different message collaboratively. and so we thought, some of those things that people are saying, they're nuts. nobody is going to believe that. but in the absence of us putting anything different out, it actually stuck in people's heads and it sort of become the narrative and that's where we really fell down in all of thi

tonight, a conversation with michelle rhee, a former chancellor of the d.c. public school sister. she is the ceo of students first, a nonprofit to address concerns of u.s. schools servants -- u.s. schoolchildren. many of her ideas were at the center of the documentary "waiting for superman." we are glad you could join us. >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i am james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and every answer, nationwide insurance is proud to join tavis in working to improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment, one conversation at a time. >> nationwide is on your side >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- tavis: michelle rhee served as chancellor of the d.c. public school system from 2007 through 2010. she is now founder

i asked kevin, speaking as the mayor, why would anybody reach out for michelle rhee consider what happened? seaside people like us are just so desperate to make a dent in some kind of improvement in the urban school district. so it is going to have incremental sturbridge not. he offered proof in this avalanche that came to michelle as she stepped down. so i think kevin is straight. these reforms are going to be tried again and not just michelle spurgeon. so not going to pass it to michelle linnaeus be by agreeing to talk with her relations with the press, probably heard the favorite topic. considering this is organized by each initial advisory association can she played along a circuit court. >> my relations with the press. i think my relationship with the press was complicated. let me say on the first side that a lot of very good things happened because of the press attention that week i, with the efforts we were putting forests. i was really surprised, to tell you the truth, when i started the job that there was so much interest in literary doing. at first i would often go out to dinner

schools chancellor michelle rhee. mr. johnson heads the education department's mayor advisory council. after leading -- leaving the d.c. school system, michelle rhee founded "student's first." from the clinton school of public service from the lead -- from the university of arkansas, and this is one hour and a half. >> in his 2011 state of the union address, or that obama mentioned the words "educate and education" 14 times. it underscores the need for real, lasting reform in our education system. the president asked us to do what is necessary to give all children a chance to succeed, but in doing so, he is admitting that we have too many kids in this country who are born into a search from stances where success is not a legitimate option. our guests tonight are out to change that. michelle rhee is a former classroom teacher and a founder of the new teacher project the certifies and supports teachers in a high poverty schools. she is known for her tenure as the chancellor of washington, d.c. public schools in her new role

school system, michelle rhee founded "student's first."om the clinton school of public service from the university of arkansas, this is one hour and a half. >> in his 2011 state of the union address, president obama mentioned the words "educate and education" 14 times. it underscores the need for real, lasting reform in our education system. the president asked us to do what is necessary to give all children a chance to succeed, but in doing so, he is admitting that we have too many kids in this country who are born into circumstances where success is not a legitimate option. our guests tonight are out to change that. michelle rhee is a former classroom teacher and a founder of the new teacher project that certifies and supports teachers in high poverty schools. she is known for her tenure as the chancellor of washington, d.c. public schools. in her new role as founder of "student's first" the stated mission is to pursue transformative reform. sacramento mayor, kevin johnson, is a former nba star with a commitment to education. in 1989 he

they said that it showed that michelle rhee is lying.hey pulled up the data from my school and look at all the children from the third grade, not this -- not just the kids at my school. they said they were not at the 90 percentile or above. they said, that proves she is a liar. in fact, it did not. they were looking at the entire great of kids, not just the kids in my class. there was no way to choose the exact kids who were in my class. what is visible in those test scores is that the fact -- is that the group of children who went through the second and third grade -- all of -- out of all of the students in the treatment group, the kids that started out with the lowest test scores, they ended up as the highest scorers. even though we cannot go back and pulled the individual kids and showed bad, what is absolutely unequivocal is that we -- pulled the individual kids that, what is absolutely unequivocal is that we raised the test scores. you have the evidence right in front of view of whether or not you are moving the student achievement

schools chancellor michelle rhee and kevin johnson. there will discuss disparities between children of different races and why they think student achievement has worsened despite a doubling of spending. >> it is always doing our part. we have to do our part. there are too many kids languishing and schools that are doing well. their kids that live in nice neighborhoods and their schools are not serving them to the degree they should as well. >> i concur with him. we are in a position in this country where if you were to tell me this of code a child lives in and the race of that child, we could with pretty good accuracy tell you what their academic achievement levels are. that is one of the most of american things that i could possibly imagine. it is betraying the ideals by which we live as americans. >> watch this a bit from the university of arkansas tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> the brookings institution how the discussion on the role of community organizations and other civil society groups in egypt. panelists talked abo

tavis: join me next time for a conversation with controversy o education reformer michelle rhee.hat is next time. we will see you then. >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i am james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and every answer, nationwide insurance is proud to join tavis in working to improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment, one conversation at a time. >> nationwide is on your side pbs station from viewers like -- and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- --www.ncicap.org-- bringing things in-- in a pram. can you tell me a little about what you've got here? this is my father's collection. he was the therapist for the australian cricket team for many many years. and he was in the beginning of world series cricket. - oh really

. >> rhee is making education reform a family affair of her own.r education activist. they've been called the education celebrity couple. >> one of the most outspoken mayors in the country on education reform. we can come home and talk to one another about something that we both care about a lot. it is kind of great. >> rhee says she'll join forces for change and she's calling on every american to fight with them to save our nation's schools. >> we're at a moment in time right now that i never have seen in my entire career that there is more focus on education. i think a lot of people are saying, you know what? the education system in our country isn't working right now and we need to do something drastic to fix it. >> rhee has ambitious goals. in the first week she opened students first and raised $1 million. she hopes to attract a million members and raise a billion dollars. savannah? >> she's passionate. jenna bush hager, great to see you. >>> up next, your ageing eyes. what to do when your eyesight starts to go. first, this is "today" on nbc. s

school chance michelle rhee's efforts to reform the school system. on after words, rubin carter talks about the 20 years he spent in prison and his work for the innocence since his 1935 re-- 1985 release. we conclude with mr. west who served as assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs durgd reagan administration. he argues that a reliance on counterinsurgency strategies has led the u.s. astray in afghanistan. >> in this time we win, senior editorial writer robbins argues that the tet offense offensive was a failure for the vietnamese. from san diego, this is about an hour. >> thanks, t.j.. good morning, everybody. happy to be here. thanks for inviting me. i'm really delighted. i noted on your web site that it identified me as writing for "the washington post" and not the washington times. i'm not offended. maybe they are. [laughter] slight difference. just wanted to point that out. i'm really happy to come and talk about my tet o fennive project and also -- offensive project and also talk about current events, and first i'd l

. >> and they're rhee getting relief supplies from all over the country in what can be it termed a prettyot talking about just a few people that have been displaced. you've seen the pictures. this is over 350,000 people that are currently homeless right now. so it's a tribute and testament to the japanese people as they deal with the tragedy. we'll be right back. this is "the early show" on cbs. these ladies have been exercising, watching their diets and enjoying activia light. well? i've lost a few pounds and i've never felt so light. at 70 calories, delicious activia light helps you be light and feel light too. ♪ activia all you expect from the number-one recommended detergent by dermatologists. all free clear is free of dyes and perfumes. and has powerful stainlifters to help get your whole wash clean. it's all good. ,,,, to help get your whole wash clean. [ woman ] the first time i smoked, i was 13.g breaths ] i was in a hurry to grow up and wanted to look cool. big tobacco knew it, and they preyed on me. i'm here to tell you that big tobacco hasn't changed. they continue to profit...

the work that michelle rhee did to put in a teacher evaluation system, you know, we were supportive of that because we believed that over time evaluation systems can get very good. they can use test data, they can use cameras in the classroom, they can use student interviews, there's all sorts of ways to create a system that's fair and encourages improvement and takes the compensation somewhat away from the pure seniority basis that it's been to date. the jury's out on what's going to happen in the d.c. school system, will they continue to drive forward in terms of the evaluation system, making it better and really running the system in a strong way on behalf of the kids? be you -- you know, so it'll be interesting to see. around the country there's a lot of school districts that are trying out teacher evaluation. the whole state of colorado passed a law, there's six districts that our foundation is funding these new systems in, some in partnership with unions that they've been a good partner in those places. so i think, i think we will get great evaluation systems, and i think the d.c

you have an opportunity to agree with rhee's the people that there is a way to help people come back done. you can make the case in a practical sense of what transit investments have made in your community, what difference it makes economic elite and the terms of the fabric of the community, the environment, be able to deal with social equity. you have a case to make. i am proud of what we have done in oregon. transit made it possible for parliament to be america's best to european city. we have made it a place. they laugh about bill people going there to retire. the quality of life is good enough that people feel like they are retiring. young people are coming. we can strengthen our downtown. we give people a transportation choices. there has been reinvested in areas that would not have been possible were it not for transit. we need you to advocate for what transit means for you now and in the future. we need you to advocate for the national framework. we need a plan. we cannot muddle along. we have already had at seven extensions. we had 12 last time. this is no way to run a transi

at 1:00, rhee. abc's "this week." chu, bill richardson, and former homeland security michael chertoff. fox news sunday rears at 2:00 p.m. chris wallace talks to sit criteriumchu, reid, sen. gramm, and rand paul from kentucky. at 3:00 p.m., a state of the union. we talk with secretary chu, john mccain, joe lieberman, and the two retired officers. at 4:00 p.m., "face the nation." bob schieffer talked to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mullen, dick lugar, and secreary chu -- secretary chu. they begin at noon with "meet the press," could this week," "fox news sunday," "face the nation." on xm 132, as a podcast or online at c-spanradio.org. >> today on road to the white house, herman cain on whether he will run for the republican nomination. >> i have put my toe in the water. the feedback that we have gotten from people across this country, tens of thousands who are willing to volunteer. >> at 6:00 27:30 p.m. eastern and pacific. host: our topic is u.s. foreign- policy and the role of the u.n. we welcome

ladies and gentlemen let's thank michelle rhee and kevin johnson. >> next, your calls and comments onhington journal." at 10:00 a.m., possible republican presidential candidates including newt gingrich, haley barbour, and others. now, a discussion on u.s. policy towards iran. a task force with the atlantic council has released a report examining it ron's relationship with middle eastern countries and the implications of political unrest in the region and what it would mean for those countries and the united states. the panel also examines a proposal with involving iran in diplomatic talks. the task force is cochaired by check payable and stewart eisenstaedt's. this is one hour 20 minutes. >> we look at iran at's and neighbors and arab nations across the persian gulf. given the recent events in recent months, we considered the impact of unsettle complex in iran. this in atlantic council task force was lost a year ago. it was launched with the goal of building a comprehensive understanding of u.s.-iran relations, and the internal political and economic dynamic within the country. since

and you know in the middle of all thofshgs and i hais, i have michelle rhee, the great reformer, and jack canon who has done an incredible job to take kids who got nothing and be able to get them graduated and get them to college. i have been in schools all over new york, and i have been in a school in new york where they the frederick douglass academy where they are miracle workers. and those are one offs. we need to change the system so we can have more success. i want to be clear, i'm passionate and emotional about it, and we have to put our kids out there and get them going first. wayne strubl is going to talk about higher ed. wayne has been with me forever. he was the house staff budget director committee, and he helped get the negotiation in the balanced budgets in 1997, and he is going to talk about higher ed, but he could do this whole program by himself. wayne. >> thank you, governor. over the past several years we have had a national debate over rising health care cost, and lost in the debate however has been the fact that education costs, higher education costs have actual