laughter] sometimes a unicorn can morphed into a rhinoceros and you do not want to mess with eight rhinocos. i met with a young man yesterday's new was the manager of a small exxon refinery. partly owned by citgo. he was seriously concerned about his job security and his other employees working in the refinery because of the legislation seeking to repeal 199. because this refinery is partially owned by citgo, a repeal would not the fact his interest. i call that unamericna. why would be taxing the u.s. company and letting him do his thing and not -- in central america. there might be some confusion when some of my friends claim that removing these tax expenditures will not have any impact on the domestic oil industry. why would this young man think differently? has the refining sector read scene is much profitability as the oil exploration sector? our jobs juliet risk of these taxes are revoked? >> if you look at our own refining operations, refining has lost money five of the last eight quarters. we made some money in the first quarter and lost money in the fourth quarter. it gets back to