this is where rhonda starts coming into my mind. i know she has heard the shots. i know rhonda. it wasn't just my life i was worried about now. >> was that in terms of your mental state? how did you still feel at that point in terms of the threat of imminent danger? >> now, it is double, because it is not just me we are talking about. >> at some point now, do you see that suv actually drive towards a different direction or try to drive away? >> it did. this is where now they are back in line with it. they fire on me, they will hit the front door and this is where rhonda comes out. >> again, with your gun, how many bullets can it fire at a time? >> one. >> that goes in one direction? >> yes, sir. >> with your experience and training, what does a shotgun blast do? >> it has a very nice spread. >> the further away you you get, the bigger that spread? >> the bigger that spread. >> that's kind of why you could shoot clays at 50 yards plus and still hit it? >> and hit it, yeah. >> do you fire additional rounds into the back of the truck? >> i did. in my panicked state of mind, i thoug

you used the word gun with rhonda rouer? >> yes, i did. >> when? when? >> multiple times. >> you're telling this jury that on the way back to the hotel you told rhonda rouer that the boys in the car had a gun? >> if i told her on the way to the hotel i told her several times at the hotel. i told her several times on the way home that this was self-defense. >> that wasn't my question. >> well, the whole -- the whole conversation revolved around gun, threat. they came out of the car at me. so it wasn't just they had a gun. because when he just had a gun, i didn't shoot him. it wasn't until he made specific threats and got out of his car and came after me. so all of that was part of the conversation. >> okay. from the time you left the gate station to the time you got back to the sheraton, how many times did you use the word "gun" to -- let me finish -- to describe what the boys in the car had. >> i couldn't tell you. >> was it at least one? >> at least one. >> but in a surprise twist, prosecutors called his fiancee back to the stand, and then in a dramatic

let's listen to what he said talking about his fiance, rhonda rouer. >> this is where rhonda starts coming the shots. i know rhonda -- it wasn't just my life i was worried about. >> you know, you know jurys. what do they see? >> seeing a defendant break down on the stand can be touching to a jury. the problem is the times he broke down yesterday were in reference to his fiance and then the other time was in reference to his dog. not once in that three to four hours of testimony when he's referring or talking about the death of jordan davis did he ever show any emotion or remorse whatsoever. and so i think the fact of where he showed the emotion is going to be detrimental to his case. >> he was almost clear, calm, and cold when he was talking about the shooting itself. when he spoke about his dog x he started to get teary. another subject that came up was the chain of events that happened after the shooting. he talked about the fact that they didn't call police. they went back to the he toll. let's listen to what he said. >> we were there looking out the windows like awaking nightmare. ever

i know rhonda. it wasn't just my life i was worried about now. >> lisa bloom is a legal analyst and also the author of suspicion nation, the inside story of the trayvon martin injustice and why we continue to repeat it. i want to play a little bit more here of the cross-examination of dunn. especially when he asks dunn about why he asked davis are you talking about me. take a listen. >> so you thought the best course of action is to roll down your window and say, excuse pieme, are you talking about me? >> correct. >> that's what you you felt the best idea was? >> yes. you know, nothing for nothing, but, you know, he could have been singing. i don't want to assume that they were talking about killing me if they were singing. >> the truth is, sir, when you rolled down your window and said are you talking about me, you were challenging this 17-year-old boy. >> i don't believe so. i put the infliction on me. >> lisa, why is that significant whether he challenged that 17-year-old boy? >> because the pros

>> since i was 21. >> rhonda hopes the skills she has picked up in the bakery will give her a second>> got a daughter? >> yes, she's 14. she's with her father's mother in florida. >> what's her name? >> roseanne. >> she writes to you? >> yeah. >> what does she write? >> saying that she loves me, she misses me. start crying right now. it's all right. are you all right? >> yeah. okay. i miss my daughter. >> i know you do. i know you do. all right. >> my heart went out to her because whenever prisoners begin to talk about their children, it is the one very sensitive spot in their lives. and no matter what they may have done to get them to a jail, to prison, they still are very touched, and love their children. >> good thing is that you got a lot out of being here, right? >> yes. ever since i've been in here for several months, doing my eight months, i feel good now. i just thank god that i'm in here, i'm glad. because when i was in the street, i started smoking that stuff and it didn't help me. didn't get me anywhere. got me into trouble. it got me in here. but now i learned my lesson,

>> i wanted to reassure rhonda. i mean, if she was questioning things, i wanted to set her mind at ease. >> and you also remember writing the letter that was dictated where your brother typed it out and mr. guy questioned you on that? >> yes, i do. >> what was the purpose sending that letter out to your family? >> that's so they would know the truth and get beyond the media nonsense that they were putting out. >> and do you know if that letter was then spread out to your family and friends so they knew what happened? >> yes, it was. in fact it was published on justice for dunn.com. mr. guy kept talking about hour and a half, two hour was law enforcement that day with the jacksonville homicide detectives. ever been questioned by police for murder? >> never. >> you ever been accused of murder? >> never. objection, your honor. >> sustained. >> let me ask you this. are you trained in any type of interrogation, or debate? >> no. do you recall detective muster, as mr. guy read from your statement. do you recall mr. guy as

when rhonda came out of the store and got back in the car they quickly drove off.y never found a firearm in the suv. on the stand, dunn said he told his fiancee the teens had a gun. >> you told her they had a weapon of any kind. >> yes i did. >> you did. what did you tell her? tell the jury the term you used to describe the weapon. >> i don't know what i said but i told her they had a weapon, they threatened my life and they were, he advanced upon me. >> reporter: but rhonda had a different story. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> there was no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there was no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there was no mention of a barrel? >> no. >> there was no mention of a lead pipe? >> no. >> reporter: dunn explained to the jury why he didn't call the police that night. >> that didn't go through your had i just shot somebody because they point ad gun at me i should call the police. >> you're right. that sounds crazy. i can't tell

rhonda our.en. >> did the defendant say anything about the music when he parked the car next to the red car? >> yes. >> what did the defendant say? >> i hate that thug music. >> and what was your response to the defendant? >> i said, yes, i know. >> rhonda rouer, talking about thug music, four black teenagers, and the defendant himself has had some pretty choice words to describe the african-american community, at least in the jail where he has been held since all of this happened. my next guest has a lot to say about that. he's a prominent pastor at a local church here, and he has spoken very specifically, not just about this particular case, but the circumstance we find ourselves in jacks well. before the break, i mentioned the 1960s ax handle saturday. so many african-americans were beaten by white men. they were protesting for civil rights. >> yes. >> and, you know, the white men were having no part of it. >> yes. >> here we are, 2014. is it still prominently in the memories of people? is tha

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>> rhonda wanted to get a bottle of white wine. >> that's because they didn't have white wine at thep a bag of chips? >> yes, she was. >> did she eat at the wedding? >> not very much. she picked around her plate more than ate. >> at that point, why did you pick that gas station, any reason at all? >> it was on the way. we got off the highway and i was following my gps map, not really knowing where we were at. it was the first place we saw. >> as you get off the highway, gps just said get off this exit. you didn't punch in convenience store? >> no, we just punched in our destination. >> like you said, this was the first place you passed? >> yes, it was. >> do you recall looking back on it now how far away the hotel was from that gas station? >> it wasn't very far. i heard testimony it was like 3 miles away. that seems about right. >> was there a lot of traffic that evening. was it bumper to bumper? jacksonville is famous for rush-hour traffic. was this rush-hour. >> 7:30 in the evening. i don't think that qualifies as rush-hour. i don't recall any heavy or light. it just was normal tr

and let me tell you what i am reading here with rhonda rouer, and just like zimmerman's wife found outand boy, she got abused with this guy, and she didn't know that he was so dangerous and violent, and the same thing, and i'm reading it in rhonda rouer, and yes, she is trying to give the al bye as to why they went to the hotel and left the scene, but you can see that this is a woman who is in above her head she realizes with this individual, and see seems like a sweet person, and so she did not bargain for being with a man who has such low impulse control that he is going to end up shooting someone even if he feared for his own life. >> and so even though they are planning, and they were talking about the wedding went off without a hitch, and they had gone to a ed withing and whatever, and you don't think, oh, no, he was in the wrong? is that happening in her head? >> well, she was absolutely surprised when she was in the store and heard the pop, pop, pop, and she was like, what is that? and why did it happen? that is what i keep seeing from her that why did this happen? >> and holly,

. >> about whether or not you told rhonda roawer there was a gun?ere that i cannot recall in i ever convey the details of motion mai decisionmaking to you. >> is that your letter? >> yes. >> okay. is it -- it hasn't been altered, has it? >> no. i don't have the original. >> okay. well, you wrote it, right? >> it appears to be. >> okay. fair and accurate copy? >> sure. >> judge, can i move this in as state's 202? >> i think it is 202. >> no objection, your honor. >> that will be received as state's exhibit 202. >> thank you. >> now you got 202 in front of you. i ask you to turn your attention to the front page. did you not write, in passing -- he mentioned in passing that i made no mention of a gun to you. >> right. so what's your point? is that what it says? >> is that not what it says? >> uh-huh. >> okay. so you didn't tell rhonda rower about a gun. >> that's not what this says. this says somebody else. somebody else told me she didn't mention the gun. that's different than me mentioning the gun to her. >> you're going stick with the account that y

it started when dunn and his fiancee rhonda rower pulled into a jacksonville, florida, gas station in november 2012. they parked in ex-to an suv full of teens. >> body panels on the suv were rattling. my rear-view mirror was shaking. my eardrums were vibrating. this was ridiculously loud music. >> dunn's fiance testified the 47-year-old software developer had this reaction? >> and what did the defendant say? >> i hate that thug music. >> reporter: rower went inside to buy a bottle of wine. seconds later, gunshots. >> oh, my god. somebody is shooting. >> reporter: dunn pulled his semiautomatic pistol out of the glove box and fired ten times. today he testified while she was in the store he talked to the young men in the suv and said can you turn that down, please. they turned it off. if the music wasn't off, at least the base stopped completely. >> okay. and at that point, what did you say? >> i said thank you. >> reporter: dunn said the pleasantries didn't last long. he said the 17-year-old in the rear passenger seat started mouthing off. >> i should [ bleep ] kill that [ bleep ]. now

for the for the well dad brought us to rhonda that it's what's left over from making some flour oil spill they used it to feed it to cattle to run the it was very difficult to chew. tried to make it edible. jell in she boiled it as much as she could tell it but even adding charcoal. it was still tred full to eat but there was nothing else so that's what we had to do polish on walking along rubenstein street. we all have russian carts and we will be given these bottles of syrup they called it was sort of like sweetened water would be cool would you well someone dropped the bottle you threw up out of the oil for smashed them or soaked into the ground to three and she will swear this happened i saw it with my own i. lured the people were crawling around trying to lick what they could off the ground with the words used to warm this is what the seeds did to people feel the ship of the. divine move in the vampire they bombed the die of ski warehouses the fire lasted for a few days it was awful the fire was huge the whole of leningrad could see it if it was the main storage place for all the foo

. >> reporter: what about the testimony of his fiancee, rhonda about what he thought about the music they were playing? >> that was a big deal for me because he testified he wouldn't say or use the words thug, but he said he would use the words rap crap. however in hisser into view, he did say thug a few times. >> reporter: dunn's fiancee was grilled by the prosecution. >> and what did the defendant say? >> i hate that thug music. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw the boys with a firearm? >> no. >> did he ever tell you he saw the boys with the weapon? >> no. >> reporter: the jurors deliberated for nearly 30 your hours. there were reports there was yelling heard from the deliberation room. >> there was. >> reporter: you did some of the yelling. >> at one point we were all trying to get our point across. >> reporter: screaming? >> oh, yes, sir. >> reporter: profanity? >> oh, yes, sir. >> reporter: people were passionate about their position? >> oh, yes, sir. >> reporter: what started out as a 10-2 vote ended 9-3. it had to be unanimous. a mistrial on that count. the jury did fi

you used the word gun with rhonda rouer? when? >> multitypical times. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >>. no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> there is no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there is no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there was no mention of a barrel? >> no. >> there was no mention of a lead pipe? >> no. >> now, this is his girlfriend. she was there. she was inside the gas station when he shot the kid. she immediately came out, left with him, stayed with him the next day. she said he never mentioned a gun. obviously you saw on the tape, he said he mentioned it multiple times. how important is this to a jury? >> i think this was a pivotal point in the trial, and i'm sure that this is something that is being discussed behind closed doors in that jury room, because rhonda rouer came up and said he never, ever mentioned a gun. and if there was a gun pointed at you and you are afraid for your life, and your fiancee comes back and gets in th

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." >> reporter: rhonda rouer testified those are the last words she heard her fiance say before he openede on the suv parked right next to him. the couple had stopped at this jacksonville gas station to buy wine after the wedding. she went inside. that's her on the store surveillance tape with a bottle of wine. next, gunfire. [ gunshots ] >> oh, my god, somebody's shooting. somebody's shooting out of their car. >> i heard pop, pop, pop. >> reporter: rouer says she ran outside and dunn told her to get back in the car. >> did you see a firearm at that point in time? >> yes. michael was putting it into the glove box. >> reporter: prosecutors say dunn hit the suv nine times including several shots to the back of the vehicle as the driver was pulling away. rouer was a reluctant witness for the prosecution, sobbing and shaking throughout her testimony that the state hopes will put her fiance away for life. she described how after the shooting dunn left and never called for help. that instead they went to this hotel, ordered pizza, and shared more drinks. rouer testified it was her idea to head

dunn, was that the first time you had met rhonda at your wedding?nd know anything about her other than what you met that night? >> no. >> may he be excused? >> yes, your honor. >> thank you, you are excused. >> next witness. >> quickly, that was michael dunn's son. he had only seen his father three times in the last 15 years. the day his father shot and killed 17-year-old jordan davis, but that was a little bit about the color at the wedding and whether or not his father could have been drinking too much and intoxicated. we are following this first-degree murder trial out of florida, keeping a close eye on it. we want to talk about hillary clinton. it turns out hillary clinton had choice words for monica lewinsky after learning her husband, president clinton had had an affair with the white house intern. according to notes taken by a close personal friend, the first lady called monica lewinsky a loony toon. she also assigned some of the blame for what happened to herself. we will talk about this with a reporter from the washington free beacon and ju

rhonda is on the witness stand.estimony. >> i'm showing you state's exhibit number 2. do you recognize that to be an overview of the gas station? >> yes. >> looking at state's exhibit 2, can you tell the jury which entrance you used when you got to the gate gas station? do you remember? >> i just don't know how to tell you. >> you can touch the screen and make a mark on it. >> i think we went in this entrance. >> for the record, it's the turn off south side boulevard showing on the screen. >> if you put pressure on there, you can draw a line with your finger. there you go. >> good? >> now, when you pulled into the entrance or when the defendant did, did he then park the car? >> yes. >> what was the reason for stopping at the gas station? >> to get a bottle of wine. >> whose idea was it? >> mine. >> i'm showing you state's exhibit 5. is that then, just the front doors of the gas station you stopped at? >> yes. >> this is now state's exhibit 7. can you show on this screen where the defendant parked his car? >> right t

rhonda marshall was robbed twice. >> had a gun, too. you know what it was -- youngsters. know they had been -- they don't belong to the building because we don't have no youngsters in the building. >> visitors are supposed to enter at a security desk. intruders have easy access because this gate almost never locks, as resident dennis lewis demonstrated. >> you're supposed to need a key card. as you see, you don't. >> residents have repeatedly complained about cybersecurity, the company that watches the housing complex. at the january meeting, jackie thompson wanted to know what needs to be done to find a new firm. >> how come in commission doesn't know that we are entering into a new contract? >> tim jones heads the richmond public housing authority. >> it is the opinion of this board that we're not moving forward with this particular firm. we would make that decision then. but the original contract -- >> every month they complain about the job that the security guards are doing and have questions about the competency of the firm. they've brought these concerns to tim jon

. >> dunn's fiancee, rhonda rouer, was in the store.lso testified today. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red s.u.v.? >> no. >> reporter: did the defendant ever tell you that he saw a weapon of any kind in that s.u.v.? >> no. >> reporter: dunn and rouer drove to their nearby hotel and ordered a pizza. he did not call police. >> you're talking about me? >> reporter: and turned himself in only after he learned investigators were looking for him. dunn's testimony today came as a surprise, as the defense rested. scott, the jury could start deliberating tomorrow, and if convicted, dunn faces life in prison. >> pelley: and we will keep following that. manuel, thanks. today, the f.b.i. and italian police busted what they say is a mafia ring that was smuggling cocaine in some ingenious ways. there were seven arrests in new york, 17 in southern italy, where allen pizzey went on the raids. >> reporter: fast-moving convoys of police cars swept into the night in a coordinated series of raids. >> follow the cars, follow the ca

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demonstrators then attempted to block or take over the building the situation quickly escalated as rhonda's also tried to storm the office of ukraine's ruling party setting it on fire violence spread across the center of the century and three people were killed there becoming the first of many victims the police attempted to despise rioters but we're mad with rocks and molotov cocktails several policemen died in the clashes and let's not take a look at where the protesters and police have been taking out position by the time the truce was agreed security forces had managed to clear european square and push demonstrators away from governmental buildings however the situation now is unstable to say the least the professors are trying to push the police bought from the independence square and reach parliament and some reports suggest rioters on shooting at the security forces from the music a consummate building german journalist money oxer writer believes ukraine's opposition has now lost control of the crisis it helped create. well we should remember that for example of germany's number one

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we saw it with rhonda, one of the other reasons she's called by the prosecution is because she's freaked by the whole thing. why did this happen? it didn't have to happen. you didn't like the music, it was so loud, you park in another spot and if you are so afraid that you felt it was a stand yor ground, you had to pull out your gun, why open your mouth in the first place to four young people in a car. >> right. it's very emotional. she's reliving it. can you imagine what the family of the kids are doing? >> that's, again, what we saw with trayvon martin. by the way, some cases have been settled with some of the other young men because they were so traumatized by this and actually michael dunn's legal people have settled with those young folks. i think that speaks volumes in itself. >> don't go far. we are going to come back in the next hour and talk about this. in the meantime, we are going to talk about a surprise winner of the winter olympics. a 20-year-old who let it rip on the slope style course and became the first hero in sochi. this is the first power plant in the country to comb

on the stand yesterday, dunn's fio fiancee rhonda gave the defense what she saw. >> could you hear theom the red suv? >> yes. >> from where you were sitting inside of the car, could you hear any of the lyrics of the music? >> no, i couldn't make out the lyrics. >> could you tell what kind of music it was? >> yes, i could. >> could you hear the bass? >> yes. >> from inside the car, was anything in the karcakaratling the base? >> no. >> did the defendant say anything about the music when he parked the car next to the red car? >> yes. >> and what did the defendant say? >> i hate that thug music. >> and what was your response to the defendant? >> i said, yes, i know. >> okay. there he is, our cnn political commentator, mark, we have been talking about the word thug for a year now. finally everyone is catching up to us about the word. and i said i don't think every time it is used it is racial, but in certain cases it is. and now you just have someone in their testimony saying, hey, listen, i don't like that thug music. what is the impact on this trial and what do you think he meant by that

. >> reporter: giving his son the same jailhouse account he gave fiance rhonda rouer. >> it was a meion. >> reporter: and later a jury. >> it wasn't just my life i was worried about now. >> reporter: that jury wasn't able to reach a verdict on the charge of murdering davis. it stunned dunn with a conviction on three counts of attempted second-degree murder. charges he was sure he would beat. >> it will work out. i have high confidence that it will work out. if it even goes to trial, once they see all the evidence. >> reporter: so what's next for michael dunn? the sentencing hearing for the three attempted second-degree murder convictions could come as early as late march. a retrial date for the first-degree murder charges of jordan davis could come in may. dan and bianna? >> it's amazing to hear his confidence on those tapes. reena, thank you. >>> meantime, let's go to ron claiborne with the other stories developing this half hour. hey, ron. >> hi, again, bianna and dan. good morning, again, everyone. >>> history at the vatican the. retired pope benedict xvi joining pope francis. an

>> actually rhonda rouer. you could tell she was nervous, she was shaking, she was trembling. like she could hardly move. but yet she still got up there and told the truth. >> what was it like inside that deliberation room? >> it was wild. >> wild as -- >> like, it was shouting. there was a lot of yelling. >> did you take an initial vote in terms of where everybody stood? >> we did the next day. everybody had different -- >> everybody was all over the place. >> yeah. >> how many people were on each side? >> initially by friday it was two and ten. we started off saturday morning with a prayer. we all did. >> with a prayer. >> yes. >> what did you pray for? >> we just prayed that everybody had a peace of mind, everybody was open. >> how difficult was it for you to come back into that courtroom knowing that jordan davis's parents were there and that you couldn't agree on a charge related to his death? >> it was hard. we were confident and cool with it. but when he sent us back, we were just like, okay, this is the decision we had to make. when he sent us back we got nervous. we g

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. >> what about the testimony of his fiancee, rhonda rower, about what he thought about the music they were playing? >> that was a big deal for me because he testified he wouldn't say or use the words "thug," but he said he would use the words rap crap. however, in his interview he did say "thug" a few times. >> thug. that's a word that is resonant with a lot of african-americans, and especially that juror as well. >> of course. richard sherman, the football player, said a few weeks ago "thug" is the new "n" word. when you have this combustible combination of loud rap music, of black teenagers, and a fight, a lot of people are going to think it's the fault of the black teenager who was the victim here. this is an area where the law is kind of following the science. what science tells us is we have all this unconscious knowledge or feelings about race we're not aware of so it wasn't that the jurors or the prosecutions were racists, it's just they have these feelings where they associate often black men with violence. they're scared of them and think they're dangerous. >> what many don't

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this is where rhonda starts coming into my mind, because i know she has heard the shots. i was worried about. >> all right. some say very convincing. but as the hours wore on, some others say he appeared to sound less genuine, perhaps more coached, in his answers. i want to replay that first time that dunn's own attorney asks him about those words, imminent fear. those are important words, they're in statute. but listen carefully as dunn continues to repeat those critical words. >> at that point, what was going through your mind in terms of fear? were you still in imminent fear? >> absolutely. i had already been afraid for my life. but now the fear was imminent. >> in your mind, did you think he was just going to get out to yell at you some more? >> no, i -- this is the point where my death is imminent. >> all right. so you heard it repeated. did that speak to you? did it speak to the jurors? they're not speaking to us. unfortunately. so we may never know what they were thinking and what hung them up. but our legal panel joins me now to break it down. cnn legal analyst da

you used the word "gun" with rhonda rouer >> yes, i did. >> when? >> multiple times. >> so i mean that's pretty crucial, sunny. he says multiple times he said "gun" to his fiancee and she says he never said it. >> that's right. it goes to the heart of this case. for the jury to find that he acted in self-defense with this justifiable use of force, they have to believe that he saw a gun. now, if he really saw a gun and fired in self-defense, the minute he got into that car wouldn't he have said to his fiancee, oh, my gosh, someone just tried to kill me, they had a gun, a barrel of a shotgun pointed at me? well, he says he did say that but she said no, he never said it on the way to the hotel room. he never said it on the way back home. he just never said it. i have to agree with mark, which i never do, i really think that she was the pivotal witness, the star witness really for the prosecution in this case. >> also if you're concerned -- >> it's so perplexing, they know -- the defense knows what she's going to say. it's not like it's a surprise. you'

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. >> you used the word gun with rhonda rouer? >> yes, i did. >> when? when? >> multiple times. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> there is no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there is no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there is no mention of a barr barrel? >> no. >> there is no mention of a lead pipe? >> no. >> faith, they have seen all of this, the contradictory. that was a moment all of you had chosen as a key moment. what does the fact that they are there, working into the night tonight, unlike last night where they went back to the hotel for dinner. they sent for dinner. what does this tell us that they're working late tonight? >> i mean, there is obviously a divide among the jurors on one of the crimes that he is charged with. and when you lock at that testimony, for me, that makes this issue so clear. when michael dunn did not tell his fiancee that there was any weapon of any kind, no gun, no stick, he didn't mistakenly think that he s

>> yeah i think i mentioned that, i wanted to get something for rhonda to eat. >> investigators never stand. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> did the defendant tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> dunn faces one count of first-degree murder and three counts of attempted murder. he has pleaded not guilty. >> if convicted, dunn faces life in prison and the shooting happened in november of 2012 just nine months after trayvon martin was killed, and this case is being handled by the same prosecutor angela cory. >> thank you. >>> french president heads to california today, and he spent the last two days with president obama where it seems they got along well. >> i have two daughters, and they are both gorgeous wonderful, and i would never choose between them. and that's how i feel about my outstanding european partners. all of them are wonderful in their own ways. >> very diplomatic answer. when it comes to favorites, the french president says he has four children and that makes his decision difficult as well, and he left his

rhonda royer crying and shaking uncontrollably on the stand told jurors she got out of dunn's car ands jacksonville, florida, gas station. that's her at the counter when she heard gunshots. [ gunfire ] >> oh, my god, somebody is shooting. >> i heard pop, pop, pop. >> reporter: she says she ran outside and dunn told her to get back in the car. >> did you see a firearm at that point in time? >> yes, michael was putting it into the glove box. >> reporter: she told the jury that michael dunn had three or four cocktails at his son's wedding before they stopped at the store for a bottle of wine that november night in 2012. prosecutors say he fired ten times, murdering 17-year-old jordan davis. >> like vigilantism. it's not just about jordan. >> reporter: what also outrages the victim's family. after the shooting, dunn and his fiance went back to their hotel room and ordered drinks and pizza. royer testified it was her idea to go back to the hotel room without telling anybody what happened. after seeing reports of the teenager's death on the news. >> why did you decide you needed to go home?

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during a conversation between michael dunn and his fiancee, rhonda rouer, reported shortly after his november of 2012, dunn talks of being victimized and complains about being housed alone in a cell. >> i was thinking about that today, i was thinking, i'm the [ muted ] victim here. i was the one who was victimized. i don't know how else to put it, like, they attacked me. i'm the victim. >> right. >> i'm the victor, but i was the victim too. i guess it would be better than being in a room with them animals. >> saturday night, michael dunn was found guilty on four of five counts, but the jury deadlocked on the most significant charge, first-degree murder and the death of jordan davis. let me bring in former federal inmate, larry levine, founder and director of wall street prison consultants. larry, welcome to be back. >> glad to be with you, brooke. >> here's what i'm wondering, larry, i'm wondering if prisoners, these so-called animals to whom dunn refers, if they would even know who michael dunn is. how closely do people behind bars actually follow the news? >> you do. you've got a l