ceremony at the vatican he also conferred sainthood on five others including the german nun my ria caterina tens of thousands of people turned out in st peter's square for the ceremony among them was several thousand pilgrims from el salvador where romero is a national icon. and joining me in studio is martin gawked obvious political rather religious affairs analyst so much in a couple of figures here with quite a history of achievements do tell us more about these two well i mean we have to send troops that were very significant in terms of modulating in the case of. the six very conservative and very modernizing or very liberal forces within the vatican was a good somebody that push forth the reforms of the second vatican council and mediated that space between very conservative figures that were against the reforms and very liberal for years that wanted to push much much farther so in a sense it sends a message as to the importance i mean and this is a pope that sort of i think sees himself reflected in these figures that are trying to mediate different ideological force on the other han