that's marc riboud, the late french photographer.f opened up a whole new universe to me, which was international, which was... ..had nothing to do with america or europe or africa, but had to do with everything. and so i became this kind of country—hopping, international, you know, explorer, whatever, that i had started in egypt on my own with him, which lasted 20 years. so he opened up a whole new world for you. but you always maintained this interest in monuments, as you said, and i want to ask you about the controversy that we have been debating all over the world, really, about the role of monuments in society. here in the united kingdom, for instance, the 17th century slave trader edward colston had his statue torn down by an angry crowd and they threw it into the water. you have had the controversies in the united states about confederate statues and so on. where do you stand on this? should monuments come down if some people deem them offensive? where? well, my stance on that is very famous. my stance on that is what i did wit