we'll bring in ric edelman, edelman financial services to weigh in on this conversation. d ric, i was so excited you were available today to talk about this because when itomes to the retirement crisis in this country i believe the last thing we need is the government, the federal government saying, hay you know what? spend a little less. save a little les invest a little less for your retirement. that's what we would li to see. what is your view? >> you're absoluty right, gerri. you don't strengthen the caboose by weakening engine. it is bizarre pointf view and i really don't get it. the notion is we need to be creating incentives for peoe to save for retirement. not putting ceilings on them to encourage -- discourage them from saving. gerri: i know lot of people out there, both of you would say, oh, but, gerri, t rich people, they will save no matter what. it doesn't really matter. to you first, does that logic hold water? >> i think -- >> it does to a certain degree but here's the real problem. if you have rich people without incentives to save, you know what they're go