in 2007, richard armey and i co-chaired a commission at the csis on smart power, which was bipartisan. and the idea was to have a group of significant republicans and significant democrats talk about exactly that, how do you get this be on the idiosyncrasies of personality to be something which is more broadly understood in the policy discourse. gym locker has had this project to think about how you reorganize the american government. cnas makes a contribution here. many places are beginning to think about this. so it's not going to happen quickly, but it just relies on personality, you're right, that it can be changed as the personality changes. but if you get a broader consensus or understanding of the point i'm trying to make in this book about the need for smart our strategy, and if you get into some mines in congress, and the press, and graduate politicians start telling that more broadly to the electorate, then it may be less personality dependent. but any democracy that basically depends on consensus from below, it's not a fast process. >> joe, thank you very much for a great c