it was richard armitage who was the top assistant to colin powell who was a critic of the war.his whole notion of, we were lied into the war, to punish joe wilson for having criticized the administration, this was not true. this was the administration's own war critics who outed miss plame. he also knew that she had used as her cover a state department's office. brian: when she was working for the cia. judith: yes. in my notes, i had an odd notation. it was printed seeds. -- it was parentheses (wife works in bureau?). i thought at the time, and patrick fitzgerald suggested that it was scooter libby that told me this. this meant that he and i had talked about her. when i learned from her own memoir in 2010, i did not read it until then. when i learned that she had used the state department as cover, i suddenly knew that the notation i had written it not refer to something that scooter libby had told me. it referred to something that i had been told by someone elsewhere who knew that she worked at the state department and talked about her work for the bureau. all of a sudden, a l

this is from richard armitage, former deputy secretary of state , with a very salty tongue -- keep that the policy is the art of getting the other guy to get your way. and the french, but i'm not sure which. >> my name is jim. i wasn't physically present at the beginning because i've been sitting listening to c-span radio. in addition to the shout out for c-span covering it of the world affairs council deserves a major set out for such an extraordinarily timely and substantive panel discussion. they found three people who really know what they are talking about. as opposed, unfortunately to some of my former colleagues in the congress. [laughter] some of whom i don't know if they know the difference between shia and sunni. 35 years is a relative blip in the history of american iranian relations. which has been extraordinarily positive. in fact, that is probably why surveys have shown show a residual positive attitude towards the united states higher than the surrounding nations towards america and americans. it really is somewhat ironic, given the fact that the congress is so hostile. o