so yesterday the mayor, richard barry, who usually sided with police in the past, criticised the police chief, saying he had spoken too soon, saying the shooting of james boyd was justified. >> i think he shouldn't have said that. what we need to do on a horrific situation like this is go through the video and audio. there's video that is horrific, i think anyone would find it horrific. >> we reached out to the police chief and staff multiple times. they have not responded to requests for comment. the department of justice is looking into the case and the previous police shooting deaths. their investigation has been ongoing for 1.5 years. a representative from the department of justice will be here tomorrow meeting with the community to hear their renewed concerns. >> new mexico state senator jacob candelaria joins us from albuquerque. welcome, senator. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for the invitation. >> give me your reaction to the shooting. >> well, i think, as was expressed at today's rally at apd, the protest this afternoon, it's shock. i think a lot of people in our co

politicians as diverse as lee hamilton, fritz hollings and barry goldwater, newt gingrich and richardardt had written or spoken about aipac's power in the past. even passionate defenders of israel like jeffrey goldberg and alan dershowitz had written a proudly about the lobbies clout. yet, we provoked an extreme reaction partly because we provided more detail about the lobby's influence. partly because we were both rather middle of the road boring figures from well-known universities. partly because we weren't left wing. we weren't muslim. we weren't arab. we weren't married to palestinians. and partly because it was obvious in the wake of 9/11 and the iraq war that something had gone badly awry in u.s. middle east policy. now, let me turn to what we didn't say. the rather hysterical reaction to our report confirm one of our main reports but it was difficult to have a calm reason fact-based discussion on this topic. because most of our critics could not find fault with our logic or fault with her evidence, they accused us of saying many things we hadn't said. and in most cases things

richard nixon, george h.w. bush, bill clinton. he wrote an impressive, picture- laden book, "the president's table." and was invited to the finest anchor desks in town. >> barrys presidential historian... >> the story of the ultimate inauguration collector... >> simon: but when we met up with him in june, 2012, he no longer wanted to tell his story. he'd been convicted of the single largest theft of historic artifacts in the united states. he stole thousands of items, including hundreds of documents, signed by some of the most famous names in history-- george washington, thomas jefferson, francis scott key, marie antoinette, and voltaire. he'd pilfered them from museums and libraries all over the country. u.s. attorney rod rosenstein was in charge of the prosecution. he was a con man? >> rod rosenstein: barry landau was a con artist. and he used his reputation as a presidential historian in order to gain the confidence of museums and other people who had custody of important documents. and then he stole them. >> simon: it was a reputation, it turns out, that was the product of his rich imagination. landau claimed he'd worked for every president since lyndon j

barri barrier. >> okay. that's a dispute between the nature of hoboken, and at the heart of how sandy funds will be discontributed. you are saying you heard the entire conversation between dawn zimmer and richard>> i heard them talking about the hazard mitigation. when you're a mayor, you do most of the talking and he does most of the listening. >> did you hear the whole conversation or not? >> i heard their conversation? >> the entire conversation? was there more to the conversation you didn't hear? >> all i can talk about is what i can did hear. >> the conversation -- okay, again, the report is stating that mayor doherty heard the conversation. the report is relying on you as an independent eyewitness. you heard the conversation and can conclusively say that this did not come up. can you conclusively say that this did not come up or are there parts that you it not hear? >> there may have been parts of the conversation i did not hear. what i did hear was about hazard mitigation, and i never heard commissioner constable in any way issue a threat or quid pro quo. had i heard that, it would have stood out substantially. a town like us, we are also competing for those dollars. if i newspaper the