if war on that now i'm joined by so if you richard cinci is the china director at human rights watch she joins me from new york it's good to have you on the program let me start 1st with this new law what can hong kong or is expect with this new security law now in effect well they can expect ambiguity which is exactly what aging hasn't my the way the law is worded really we have almost any kind of speech or behavior subject to being prosecuted under the new law and so where in the past one congress have been free to attend protests or run for office or engage in other kinds of civic activities without any fear for as long as they are now have to think twice about that and many other papers and what does that mean then for britain's offer of a pathway to citizenship for hong kong residents i mean could hong kong is be arrested and charged with colluding with a foreign power if they were to accept this offer. in theory yes it's a great point but nevertheless i think it's important for governments to step up and offer you offer people hong kong from people from hong kong safe haven if