>>> richard clark, the former senior white house adviser is help to help us analyze the presidential candidates answers to the first big question of the campaign. know whag you what you know now, would you as president have gone to war in iraq. the city of ramadi has been taken over by the islamic state after iraqi troops gave up fighting and fled. >> the retreat from ramadi was fast and humiliating. iraqi troops in a race for their lives. forcing them out, isis fighters who shot this propaganda video showing a city abandoned by the army. isis gunmen controlling the hospital in the city center. iraqi troops fought for just two days leaving behind american supplied weapons and tanks. but it's a setback for the u.s. a decade ago, nbc news was in ramadi where hundreds of american troops gave their lives to hold the city. today, ramadi is held by the world's biggest terror group and it will be tough to retake. >> joining us now is richard clark who served the previous three presidents as senior white house adviser. he also served as counter terrorism advisor on president obama's first ca

i sat down with richard clarke, author of the new novel "pinnacle event."rks. >> we opened pandora's box when we went into iraq. some said that before. not many. and all of this stuff that we are seeing today the rise of isis the disintegration of the state in iraq, the disintegration of the state in syria, i think is arguably directly connected to our invasion. we destroyed the state. this is what happens when you destroy a state. you have chaos. you have the rise of factions, regional and ethnic factions and i think we can look at that decision and say that's the reason that hundreds of thousands, probably a coupleple if you add it all up people have been killed. >> you were spikeing earlier about the way we are currently fighting isis. i thought you made a really good point, basically, you have to decide whether this is something we actually want to do or not as in a sort of deep democratic sense. like, are we going to commit to doing this or not? >> right. balls we are kind of doing it half assed. i understand why. a lot of the people that electled him

joining me now is richard clark, former white house counterterrorism adviser who spent ten consecutive years in the white house advising three consecutive presidents. he authored his fourth book called "pinnacle event." he joins me now. is this what a caliphate looks like? >> yeah it is. i mean, they've done it. they call themselves an islamic state. they created an islamic state. it's a huge chunk of land. they have five or six major cities, probably 2 million people under control. they have people under their control, government, issuing leps plates. this is a caliphate. they're established. there's no near term likelihood of them being evicted from big cities like mosul still a city of over 1 million people. >> so why should we care? >> i'm not sure. i think that's the key issue u. know we went in there, into iraq and we lost thousands of americans killed, and tens of thousands wounded and still suffering. we spent $1 trillion. and the american people voted for a presidential kand gatdad who said he would get out. and he did. now people are saying well maybe that was a mistake and m

. >> you i'm joined now by richard clarke, former national coordinator and author of the new book "pinnaclent" and ian bremer joins us as well and author of "superpower." listening to what richard engel said, imagine embedding american troops as bad as it is and one of our guys kids picked up and they burn him alive and do this for a couple of weeks and they do their dance of horror and humiliate the guy before that and what do we do then? i don't know why we want to slip into this role. people like it's jeb bush this time talking that. your thoughts? >> chris, i think we have to decide how important is it that we stop isis? i don't think we've done that. i don't think we've had that national conversation, and then we have to decide how much are we willing to do to stop isis, and we haven't had that national conversation. i can imagine an answer that says, yeah, we really do want to stop them. we don't want another afghanistan where people can plot attacks against the united states. that's -- that's a logical position, and if you believe that, then maybe you should do more, and there are th

the book is richard clarke's "pinnacle event," his fourth novel. they must be selling well. always a pleasure. good to see you. >> thank you. >>> coming up senator rand paul three hours into a protest on the senate floor. why he says he's not planning on stopping anytime soon. >>> plus new details in that horrific quadruple murder at a mansion in a wealthy part of washington. an employee of the husband's company delivered $40,000 to the home hours before the family was found dead. was this all about money? the keys to this home belong to mark and alissa anderson. they bought the place four months ago on what was arguably the scariest day of their lives. neither has any idea what the future holds for them. but they bought into a 30-year mortgage anyway. that was bold. they must really believe in themselves. buy in. quickenloans/home buy. refi. power. >>> welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. just about three hours and counting. that's how long ran paul has been speaking on and off the senate floor as part of the his strategy to block the renewal of the patriot act. thi

joining us richard clarke.dent obama's first campaign. his new thoflnovel, pinnacle event, was released on tuesday. good to have you with us. let's talk about strategy if there is one, what is it? we saw ramadi fall, and now palmyra. what is the united states strategy at this moment? >> we don't have a strategy as far as i can tell in syria. in iraq we have a strategy that is not working which is to let everybody else kind of do it and we'll provide loose support. we have to decide as a country whether we care about this. the congress has refused to act on the president's request for the use of force authorization. so the congress habitsn't stepped up. do the american people think isis is a threat to us? i think the answer should be yes. but we need to make that decision. and then stop fooling around. isis has controlled -- >> what can we do? >> centcom has been asking to have u.s. advisers forward air controllers and advisors forward with the iraqi national army units. maybe, maybe we don't know, but maybe if

. >> let's bring in richard clarke now. richard, thanks for joining us this morning. we just heard that warning from president obama, but you actually served on president obama's panel that reviewed the nsa's surveillance program. concluded that it wasn't necessary. what's really at stake? >> what the president is saying that he's willing to give up this program, where every call to and from information is recorded and kept by the government. he's willing to give that up because we found that it did little or no value. but, if the bill expires altogether there are other investigative tools the lone wolf authority, for example, the roving wiretap authority, that will go away as well. that will probably happen tonight. >> how serious would that be? >> well it depends on how long it goes on. what i think will happen tonight, the law will expire and later in the week the usa freedom about, that act will pass and most of the authorities will be restored. so we're likely to be faced with only a few days where the fbi won't have a handful of tools that frankly they don't oft

yes, president bush's own counterterrorism czar, richard clarke has called for the say. i want to congratulate hofstra for holding this assessment of the bush administration. but i think now it has to go beyond assessment, and this is to a larger audience in this country and around the world. if we really care about national security in being a model for the world of justice, it has to move from assessment to an accounting into accountability. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. would any of our panelists like to comment on any of the presentations that were made here today? [indiscernible] >> it was certainly working at the podium. >> i think cia s dirty tricks. cia did it. >> it is working now. >> ok, we are ok now. >> i just simply come in the interest of fairness, would respond a little bit on the senate select committee on intelligence study on rendition detention, and interrogation was a partisan political study. it was not too-sided, and there are four that further facts that need to come out from those who are able to correct some of the misstatement in

you heard richard clark. he's saying isis has become the de facto nation. >> i didn't think of any reason why you would dispute that. it's not a traditional nation it doesn't have a seat at the u.n. it's a terrorist state but it's a state that international efforts, u.s.-led efforts have not been able to dislodge. and it seems to be getting bigger. although the u.s. leading an air war against iraq or in iraq and syria against isis, the group is continuing to expand and i think it raises enormous questions about the strategy. it raises huge questions about do things need to change. can the u.s. continue on its course even when the definition of stupidity, frankly, is continuing on the same course expecting a different result. we may be heading in that direction. >> one of the things that i question is the fact that they were able to successfully open up two separate fronts. clearly what's going on in syria and what's going on in iraq is related but on both fronts they've been successful. >> the problem is that

this is richard clarke who was on another channel today who worked for reagan george h.w.ill clinton, and listen to what he had to say about it. >> it's a nation it's got a couple million people. it's larger than about three dozen nations that are in the u.n. it straddles the iraqi border. it's a country and it's going to train terrorists and send them places like here. people need to decide if they want to go back into iraq even a little bit, but they have to to stop isis because otherwise we're going to have a terrorist state and it will get around to threatening us here. >> charles, your thoughts? >> which is why we need a serious strategy. he's absolutely right. this is a state, this is al qaeda on steroids. al qaeda was hiding in caves that had the support of the afghan government, but it was in the periphery, as we learn from the osama bin laden documents that were now just released, he knew that was a side show. the real show was the middle east it was north africa, and that's where isis is. isis has skipped over the al qaeda stages. bin laden's idea was to weaken t

mike morell, for example the former acting director of the c.i.a., richard clarke, who held an extremely important position in two administrations served with both republicans and democrats -- both of them are signatories to this important report. and beyond that, mr. president -- and it has not gotten much attention -- the reality is that our government, on top of everything else, has emergency authorities so that when those who are charged with protecting our country believe there is a threat to the nation, they're allowed to issue an emergency authorization to get the information that they need right away and then they can go back and get the warrant approved after the fact. mr. president, nobody is talking about eliminating that emergency authority. so what we have is a program that the most authoritative anti-terror experts in the country believe does not make our nation any safer -- and i read the most significant finding in their report -- and on top of that, as i just indicated, emergency authorities are still preserved. and, in fact, mr. president i've indicated to our president

. >> i asked richard clark, the counter terrorisms to both bush and clinton what he thought about theore u.s. troops in iraq. we're hearing a lot of them from republicans on the hill especially those running for president. he said we tried that already, it didn't work out so well. what would you say to a skeptic who says you know we sent 150,000 u.s. troops into iraq. that's not our problem to solve? >> well again, i would argue the premise of the question is not exactly right. did the pullout have an impact? were the troops ready and trained before we pulled out with no residual force to give the command, training control and direction. all that went away in a hurry. that created the problem we have today. i believe that special capability forces the admiral referenced that kind of operation, need to be on the ground. what we found in any engagement afghanistan, iraq, smol ya 'em yemen, they get all of the lo git ticks that go with that, including medevac, those soldiers will stay and fight to the bitter end. they've lost that part. without regaining that control on the battlefield,

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diplomacy to actually get countries in the region thames themselves to do the sorts of things richard clarkeked about there, arming kurds and other things. why should it be about u.s. troops or u.s. taxpayer dollars or what we're doing, when you've got a region of the world that actually has accumulated a massive amount of wealth because of the oil wealth and they're now using it already, so let's channel it. let's use our leadership to achieve constructive ends as opposed to destructive. >> brian katulis and ryan grim thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, the manhunt for the d.c. murder. the murder suspect moves here to new york. why does his girlfriend say he might turn himself in? >>> also jeb bush makes a big move to try to distance himself from his brother. stay with us. ♪ if you're looking for a car that drives you... ...and takes the wheel right from your very hands... ...this isn't that car. the first and only car with direct adaptive steering. ♪ the 328 horsepower q50 from infiniti. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. it's tough, but i've manage

i think about richard clark he's a former official. he spent six months examining this program. as a member of the president's review group he's concluded the program has no benefits. we do not need it. and more importantly americans do not want it. and i fear that if congress does not end this surveillance program, what does it open the door for next? what's going to be the next dragnet surveillance program? the next time it won't be just phone records. it might be location information or medical records or credit card records. that's why it's so important to stop it now. some will say congress doesn't need to act because the second circuit has already ruled this program is illegal. i've read the court's decision. i agree with it. and i hope decision will ultimately be upheld by the supreme court. but there are other pending lawsuits where it will be months, even years to learn how the court will rule on this. in addition, the u.s.a. freedom act doesn't just end bulk collection under section 215 and other national security authorities, it also contains other important reforms t

richard clarke was working in the bush administration p on september 11. i asked him whether the n.s.a. program we now have would have prevented those attacks. he testified that the government already had the information that could have prevented the attacks but failed to properly share that information among federal agencies. likewise senator bob graham, who investigated the september 11 attacks as head of the senate intelligence committee also debunked the notion that this bulk collection program would somehow prevent the 9/11 attacks. the n.s.a.'s bulk collection of phone records has simile not been vital to thwarting terrorist attacks. now, when the n.s.a. was embarrassed by the theft of all their information the news about the n.s.a.'s phone mitigated program first broke they defended it by saying it helped thwart 54 terrorist attacks. well i convened public hearings on this and under public scrutiny that figure of 52 -- or 54, rather initially shrunk to well, maybe a dozen. we scrutinized that further and they said, well, maybe it was two. everybody

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richard clarke was working the bush administration. i asked him whether the nsa program we now have would have prevented those attacks. he testified that the government already had the commit -- had the information that could have prevented the attacks but failed to properly share that information among federal agencies. likewise, senator bob graham who invested the september 11 attacks head of the senate intelligence committee, also invoked the notion that this book collection program would somehow have prevented the 9/11 attacks the nsa the nsa bulk collection of phone records simply has not been vital to thwarting terrorist attacks now, when the nsa was embarrassed by the theft of all there information and the news about the nsa metadata program 1st broke they defended it by saying that it helps thwart 54 terrorist attacks. well i convened public hearings on this. under public scrutiny that figure, 52 -- 54 rather initially shrunk to, well maybe a dozen. we scrutinize that. well, maybe it was too. everyone realized that they have to

richard dobbs, author of the book "no ordinary disruption." and we're going to figure out why retired general wesley clark is being called the penny stock general of emily chang's interview with kim dotcom. we have a preview of that interview, -- preview of keeping up with kim kardashian, we have a preview of that interview, coming up. and with us now is richard dobbs, a co-author of a new book whichdinary disruption," points to global trade as one of the most significant issues facing the world to drain -- today. richard, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. this deal, which almost fell apart a few days ago, the president said this is going to be good for america. there is a huge chunk of the american population who does not believe this. trade has -- richard: always been good, think about your flatscreen tv, your three shirts for a dollar on walmart. by 2025, we will be at 4 billion consumers, people who are buying. the real question is, our american companies going to be selling to them a, or are german companies? betty: are they? richard: when we look at exports, the u.s. has done less well than other european companies -- count

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