just got a call from the general counsel who is worried that richard clark may blind side kris in d.c. >> we are he's referring to pg&e's president. >> executive director california public utilities commission. >> in removing richard clark as a witness from that senate hearing. >> i was surprised that that happened and now to know that it was because pg&e asked for me to be replaced that i was replaced to testify before the senate is disgusting. >> what does that say about pg&e's power an influence in the puc? >> apparently they get what they ask. >> the internal e-mails also reveal who are about the ones secret culture between pg&e and the puc. >> 4:20 opinion -- >> clark is reading this e-mail it followed that senate hearing. it is from pg&e's cherry to the puc's executive director. >> fyi, missed your performance, but my wife loved it. clannen's response. >> i'm planning a for rid affair with her. >> brian cherry's response me too. disgusting behavior. ten days -- days after eight people died in san bruno. all that damage that was done. absolutely disgusting. >> a year later richar

absolutely disgusting. >> a year later, richard clark was removed from his position. >> were you forced out? i was forced out of my position. >> clark says his refusal to grant pg and e's special access ultimately cost him his job. after 5:00 septembering a less prominent position he eventually decided to retire. >> i've read e-mails. i've read the stories. >> there's ample reason for the public to insist before it pays another dollar. that the culture is turning around. >> scott hempling has closely unwatched the you believe e unraveling of power. >> i've never seen this type of intimacy where personal reslags elations and policy decisions have come together. >> we also asked to review this e-mail. a controversial insider. the e-mail included instead of disciplining employees who xiv committed serious ethical vie ligsslations, the puc promotes them and excuses their behavior. >> it disgusts me and has to be rooted out. >> the e-mail pointed to several questionable promotions in the wake of the scandal. >> is it president picker's job to regain the public's trust? >> it's his job and th

. >> speaking for the first time on camera richard clark held one of the puc's most critical positions. for more than a decade, he served as director of consumer protection and safety enforcement. >> did you find that e-mail to be inappropriate? >> yes. >> reporter: he's talking about this internal e-mail requesting what he says is inappropriate access at the time the puc was considering a multimillion dollar penalty against pg&e for this 2008 fatal pipe explosion. it's written by former executive brian cherry and includes i would like to chat with just you today before tomorrow's meeting. clark responded a few minutes later. >> my message was i don't meet with utility reps one-on-one. i'm not negotiating. >> reporter: clark says his decision contradicted the culture of influence by other power brokers at the puc. clark is reacting to another example of pg ande flexing its muscle and the puc giving in. this centers on pg&e attempting to remove clark from testifying before the united states senate a couple weeks after the deadly san bruno explosion. it's written by brian sherry this tim

absolutely disgusting. >> reporter: a year later, richard clark was removed from his director's positionut? >> i was forced out of my position as director of consumer protection and safety division absolutely. >> reporter: clark says his refusal to grant pg&e special access ultimately cost him his job. after accepting a less prominent position at the puc, he eventually decided to retire. >> i've read the e-mails, i've read the stories. >> reporter: we brought the e-mails and the controversy to washington, d.c. and shared the issues with a recognized expert on public utilities and regulatory commissioners. >> there's ample reason for the public to insist before it pays another dollar that the culture is turning around. >> reporter: scott hempling has closely watched the unraveling of power and the investigations that have followed. >> i've never seen this type of intimacy where personal relations and policy decisions have come together. >> reporter: we also asked him to review this e-mail a complaint raised by a confidential insider and sent to nbc bay area. the e-mail included instead of

just got a call from the general counsel who is worried richard clark may blind sighs chris in d.c. >lity was successful. >> executive director california public utility commissions. >> in removing mr. clark as a witness from that hearing. >> i was surprised that that happened. now to know that it was because pg&e asked for me to be replaced, that i was replaced to testify before the senate is disgusting. >> what does that say about pg&e's power and influence in the puc? >> apparently they get what they ask. >> the internal e-mails also revealed more about the once secret culture between pg&e and puc. >> 4:26 p.m. on september 28th. >> reporter: clark is reading this e-mail that followed that senate hearing. it's from pg&e's cherry to the puc's executive director. >> fyi, missed your performance but my wife loved it. response, then i'm planning a torrid affair with her. brian cherry's response me too. disgusting behavior. ten days. days after eight people died in san bruno. all that damage that was done. absolutely disgusting. >> a year later richard clark was removed from his directo

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i know that richard clarke would disagree. he said that the clinton administration did focus on al qaeda. al qaeda declared war on the united states in 1996. they repeated the declaration in 19 98th. in the meantime, you have the two embassy bombings in africa. you have u.s. is: the fall of 2000. you have the uss cole in the fall of 2000. there is plenty of blame to go around. both president clinton and president bush in that interim period did not give al qaeda the attention it was due. and to be honest i think a field in a very critical role which the president has to play, which is to educate the american public. the fact was this group was determined to strike the united states and kept escalating, and look how many americans were surprised when 9/11 happened. that should not have happened. it should not have been a surprise to anybody. >> can i ask a question of director goss -- rather, of mr. negroponte. mr. goss said if we knew then what we know today, we might have done things different which i think is a very reasonab

richard clarke would disagree saying the clinton administration did focus.ou know, al qaeda declared war the united states and 96 camara. the declaration and 98. in the meantime he had the two embassy bombings in africa the uss cole in the fall of 2,000 other advanced where al qaeda was increasing the intensity of their attack. there is plenty of blame to go around in my view both president clinton and president bush and that interim timeframe did not give al qaeda the due attention. attention. to be perfectly honest i think they failed in a critical role was the pres. has to play, to educate the american public. again the fact was this group was determined to strike the united states and kept escalating. look how many americans were surprised. i should not have happened. it should not a been a surprise anybody. >> can i ask a question? just a quick question. if we knew then what we know today we might have done things differently which i think is a very reasonable thing to say. >> thank you. >> do you think that mr. negroponte knowing what we know today the

i know that richard clarke would disagree. he said that the clinton administration did focus on al qaeda. al qaeda declared war on the united states in 1996. they repeated the declaration in 19 98th. in the meantime, you have the two embassy bombings in africa. you have u.s. is: the fall of 2000. you have the uss cole in the fall of 2000. there is plenty of blame to go around. both president clinton and president bush in that interim period did not give al qaeda the attention it was due. and to be honest i think a field in a very critical role which the president has to play, which is to educate the american public. the fact was this group was determined to strike the united states and kept escalating, and look how many americans were surprised when 9/11 happened. that should not have happened. it should not have been a surprise to anybody. >> can i ask a question of director goss -- rather, of mr. negroponte. mr. goss said if we knew then what we know today, we might have done things different which i think is a very reasonab

richard clark was on the show not long ago and he said you have to give it to isis they've formed a caliphate. obviously secretary kerry disagrees. what do you think? >> i think that terrorist organizations, not just in syria and iraq hold for territory than ever, they are more men than ever more means to strike the homeland than anytime since 9/11. when secretary kerry says something like that he's disconnected from the threat trying to marginalize the threat. at the end of the day, the strategy that obama has deployed to defeat isis is not working, it will never work. and my biggest fear is that a western passport holder will come back here to wreak havoc on the united states like they did in paris. it's only a matter of time if we don't put them on the run. >> what do you say to skeptics to say you're trying to fear monger your way to the gop nomination the reality is that heart disease, smoking, speeding cost many more american lives that isis is capable of killing. what's your response? >> that heart disease and smoking is something you can change if you choose to. isis is not going to c

mike morell, for example the former acting director of the c.i.a., richard clarke, who held an extremely important position in two administrations served with both republicans and democrats -- both of them are signatories to this important report. and beyond that, mr. president -- and it has not gotten much attention -- the reality is that our government, on top of everything else, has emergency authorities so that when those who are charged with protecting our country believe there is a threat to the nation, they're allowed to issue an emergency authorization to get the information that they need right away and then they can go back and get the warrant approved after the fact. mr. president, nobody is talking about eliminating that emergency authority. so what we have is a program that the most authoritative anti-terror experts in the country believe does not make our nation any safer -- and i read the most significant finding in their report -- and on top of that, as i just indicated, emergency authorities are still preserved. and, in fact, mr. president i've indicated to our president

i ask you this because the man in charge of president's review of nsa is richard clarke. he served under president clinton and george w. bush. he says the nsa's bulk collection is not netting terrorists. shouldn't he know? >> well he should know more than he talks about. in reality, he wouldn't know what these programs are doing now being a decade out of government. but in reality when we look at the boston bombing, at what point do you want authorities to be able to track the people who are involved? at what point do we want them in the minutes, hours after an attack to be going to courts and getting warrants and then beginning thing e ing aing ae aggregation of data. this is not an easy nut to crack and there are fourth amendment challenges. this is a clash of providing for defense and bill of rights. most are important and i wonder whether the current conversation we're having is informing the public. >> senator rand paul has been accused of using the nsa to further his presidential ambitions. do you think he is? >> there's no question the base of his political support

richard clarke devised -- advised rest of the reagan and george. he was carried over to george w.ings he told cbs i think when talking about president bush, i think you done a terrible job against -- on the war against terrorism, because he said months before the 9/11 attack and warned the administration to look at al qaeda. but to be told the day after you must look at iraq? and think about it today. one million iraqis dead. but the bush administration did not do it alone. they had a compliant press to amplify their allegations. that's also has to be looked at. during the years that the bush administration, where was the press. the white house propaganda blitz was launched on september 7, 2002. british prime minister tony blair stood side-by-side with president george w. bush. together they declare that evidence from a report published by the human the show that iraq was six months away from building nuclear weapons. president bush said i don't know what more evidence we need. actually any evidence what else. there was no such report, but at the time few mainstream journalist que

clark county jail. >> go have a seat in the front three rows. >> smith shares a ride to be booked with 42-year-old richard the driver of the gray truck that offered to buy sex with the uc. both men will be subjected to the humbling reality of arrest as their information gets logged permanently into the public record. >> they may be very disheartened about the fact they have been found out or that they are going to jail and not going to get a warning or they are not just going to get a slap on the hand and somebody chastising them but it may be their lucky day because had that not been an undercover decoy and it had it been somebody that had the worst intentions for them, we'd be responding under a whole different circumstance. >> have a set on the left hand side. >> for safety reasons, the booking officers ascertains the mental state of the new arrestees. >> have a seat, sir. have you ever been arrested in other states before? is this your first time in jail. >> yes, sir. >> yes. had psychological issues? thoughts of suicide? are you having thoughts of suicide? >> no. >> were you in the military? >> yes.

records on law-abiding americans people like mike morrell former acting director of the c.i.a., and richard clark who served in two administrations, they said it could have been obtained through conventional processes. this is a program that is not making us safer and it is not my judgment that ought to be the last word, it should be that of people like i have just quoted. i'll go on to say the privacy and civil liberties oversight board report on the phone records program said pretty much same thing. i quote here "section 215 has shown minimal value in safeguarding the nation from terrorism. based on the information provided to the board including classified briefings and documentation." we have not identified a single instance involving a threat to our country in which the program made a concrete difference in the outcome of a counterterror inquiry. and i think i'll close by way of saying -- and i touched on this before my friend from new mexico arrived -- i would like to do a lot more than i believe is likely to happen here quickly in the united states senate. i do want to see us finally throw