richard clarke, we heard senator bond say for... we're six years into this experiment of intelligence reform. we have a long way to go. why? what's the basic problem? focus first on the d.n.i.position. >> the problem is you do have these 16 agencies five of which are very large. and suddenly someone is put on top of them who says i'm in charge and i'm going to tell you what to do. when before they were independent. in washington everyone is concerned about their turf, their rights, their prerogatives. no one wants to give up what they had which was control of their own agency to some new coordinator so they've resisted. there's been a whole series of bureaucratic battles fought in washington over the last six years to reassert the influence and control of the agencies as opposed to the this new thing that's been put on top of them. it hasn't worked very well. there's also been sort of unfortunate tendency by the directors of national intelligence to greatly increase the size of their staff. so what might have been a good idea with a

who were former high level administration officials for example michael chertoff mike mcconnell richard clarke who are all benefiting from these vast of. vast massive contracts for cyber security defense today by any chance happen to say who it is that we're fighting in this cyber war who our enemies are where they are not the problem i mean you know a lot of folks point to you know rogue china or for example north korea or even russia but the thing is because of this threat the u.s. government is putting all this money into building up our defenses against cyber war and so as a result we have become in some sense the cyber bully of the world because we put all of this money into this high level research and development of cyber attack weapons and cyber defense preparations and that's something that's a threat to other countries well there you go in trying to protect ourselves we once again have made ourselves the bully that the rest of the world lead. thanks for filling us in on that we have to take a break but coming up and appears the pentagon is in dire need of cash and tell you about thei