famous members was a member of the hamburg gang who went on to become their president and that was richard daley who famously refused to ever confirm or deny his participation in the riots. so it is a loaded term and it brings assumptions about race in animal instincts and group of islands that need to be examined for grad the moment i don't have a strong stance but it is a catalyst for conversation how we label different forms of violence and if those are seen as noble or acceptable. and when it is not. it is an open question. >> when you look at the starting point and it really is what people had left. it is a public lynching. >> exactly that's why the poem was over explanatory but with the image of the rope is the weapon affiliated with lynching and i appreciate you bringing that up there is a great way to talk about the great migration without talking about violence so black people migrated to the north because their living conditions of the south with the resurgence of the clan and the many ways that violences could be enacted random at any time for just looking menacingly at a white woman

and endorsing richard daley. jesse jackson called ted kennedy. the 70 he has for a very long time. aces look you'd be so impressed with what we are accomplishing here you have no idea what we are about to pull off i don't need you to come endorse us. all i am asking is for you to stay out of this race. like you just let the thing play out in ted kennedy says to him look, there's an old family friend. i hear what you're saying but there's just nothing i can do and jesse jackson, first of all there is rather a significant debt payoff that was probably stolen in illinois for his brother and made him president. that's a significant part but jesse jackson doesn't see himself that way what about him are we are we chopped liver. the primary comes around and congressman wins it anyway. the next day the chicago machine, switches sides they had been democrats they'd been democrats for as long as anybody can remember. they endorse a republican. >> ryan grim: they pretend that they are democrat but they are actually trying to help the other person on the inside. they actually endorse publicly

are we in danger of doing what the democrats did in '72 when they were so thrilled to defeat richard daley of chicago, so thrilled to defeat tip o'neill in boston that they ran a candidate who was not going to beat dick nixon. george mcgovern was not going to beat dick nixon. everybody knew it. we knew it from the beginning to the end, but they wanted a more important they wanted to beat the moderates. did the people on the risk being so determined to get the moderates they commit suicide? your thoughts. it's an open question because i don't know the answer. >> i think it's a good question. i think what's happening right now in the democratic party is we're having a robust discussion. and many of the issues we were also talking about during the obama administration like the level of deportations, those were things that progressives were, you know, doing, engaging in activism around at the time. so this is not new. and the circular firing squad, yes, is a danger. i think as long as the candidates are sticking to the policy disagreements and staying away from my personal attacks or challengi