tom -- former acting ice director and fox news contributor, richard david hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution and doe neck presley and byron york is with us, chief political correspondent at the washington examiner, also a fox news contributor. i've got to start with you, paul. the gall of the county officials in san jose to turn around and try to blame i.c.e. when we just showed the audience that their stamp was on that document. is it stunning, are you surprised? >> well, i tell you what i am. i'm sick to my stomach. four months before bambi was murdered all they had to do was pick up the phone and call authorities and that didn't happen. and now we're here today. let me tell you, it's simple for us. the american police officer thinks, if you commit a violent crime and you're indicted, and you're undocumented, you do your time and then you're deported. >> laura: bambi larson was 59 years old. the scenes from the crime, the crime scene, it was brutal according to the reporting. bloody footsteps. the injury to her body, injuries, were with a jagged instrument. the suspect w