even richard dawkins says if we put it on a scale of 1 to 7, 1 being absolutely certain there is a goding absolutely certain there is no god, even i'm a 6.9 because we don't know. >> piers: where are you? >> 6.9. >> piers: a tiny fragment thinks there could be a god. >> it could be a good or it could be a spaghetti monitor. >> piers: how did your parents react to your apagt yichl. >> i was scared to death of the whole process. all i could do to keep it together in church. when i was a young teenager, thankfully my father stopped going to church and that was the end of it. i was no longer any sort of catholic. then i went for many years not thinking about religion that much. i kind of believed in god, it was like when i was in trouble, i would bargain with him. god if you get me out of this, i promise i will quit smoking. >> piers: do you still do any of that? do you ever pray? >> pray? no. praying is trying to telepathically communicate with an imaginary friend. atheists don't pray. the past 15 or 20 years, that's been my view. >> piers: if you had prayed, would you pray for the kind o