richard deverell, welcome to hardtalk. thank you.begin by asking you about your vision for this remarkable place, kew. do you see it as an institution devoted to science and research? or, fundamentally, is it one of the world's great visitor attractions? kew is a bit of both. i think at the heart of kew has always been science, our scientists and our scientific collections. but we also have this extraordinary living collection in the gardens just here. we have nearly 18,000 different species at kew. and that, of course, is at the heart of the visitor attraction, along with the beautiful buildings. it's a world heritage site. my vision for kew is that, fundamentally, we try and align everything we're doing to address these enormous global challenges we face as humanity, the biodiversity crisis and the climate crisis. and kew has to make a meaningful contribution to those big challenges. you make it sound as though you're bringing some sort of missionary zeal to this job of yours. absolutely. kew is a public body. we have a sense, i th

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