his name is richard drayer. he's the photographer taking video of these guys. watch this part. the space gets so small, he has to take off his helmet to get through. are you kidding me? >> how do they get out? how do they turn around? they are in there, you're stuck, it's small, and there's water. >> to answer some of the questions we have, we have the photographer joining us right this minute via skype. richard, we're freaking out just watching this video. you got to tell us what it's like to be down there. >> well, it's a little tight, but it's not as bad as you think it is once you get inside. can't be clausterphobic, though. >> how do you get out? >> five-point turn, kind of wiggle back and forth until you get yourself turned around and back out. >> you mean to tell me that there's no big open cavern that you're crawling to get to, it's just a tiny hole going in and coming out? >> if there is a big hole, we haven't found it at the end. the original reason it was explored was to find dry cave and passage at the end, but we've explored about 500 feet and it keeps getting tigh