to potential national security official richard clark, potential fbi special agent in charge, richard frankelrke, let me start with you. if this suspect was on a watch list, why was he not actually being watched? >> because there are test of thousands of people on watch lists. and all that can be done when someone is on a watch list is their electronic media use can be monitored, perhaps their phone calls can be monitored. you can't have eight agents following around 10,000, 20,000 people. and it takes eight agents or more to follow somebody around 24 hours a day. >> richard frankel, we've been talking for years about the problem of soft targets. it was horrifically displayed overnight in manchester. what do wre we do about this problem? >> without getting into the tactics at nypd or other police departments use, we're pretty good here in the u.s. as far as soft targets. they do things that make it harder to attack those soft targets. but as we saw in times square it still can happen. it's really not the soft target that's the problem, it's pre-soft target. the concert was a soft target, but