until we get richard gabriel on the, if an the phone, he's a jury consultant. four white women, two black women, one asian, four white men, one hispanic. richard, what impact does this have? >> the racial makeup has less of an impact than whether the fear factor. and i think the african-american women are going to see this differently than the white jurors. the truth is when you're sitting at a gas station and hear loud music from a car and look over and see four youth, there's a large portion of the white population that does have fear and expectation. and it's whether that is driving this or not. whether they think that jordan davis was the agrgressor or whether michael dunn was. it has to do with perspective. that's why i would be interested -- i know there's a lot behind the closed doors done in jury selection as to how jurors, what their attitudes were about guns, about stand your ground and what these jurors thought about the zimmerman verdict. that's more determinative because their race absolutely doesn't form that perspective, but it's really their life

richard gabriel joins me live from los angeles.a jury consultant, i'm fascinated to hear your take on what you think these attorneys were thinking when they went in, especially with the zimmerman case not even a year out in and looming large. >> well, ashleigh, i think as you have talked about, there are three main components that i think both sides are looking for. i would call them the fear factor, forensics and guns. and in terms of jurors, it's really their attitudes and their personalities that you're looking for in jury selection. you're trying to find out whether a juror is going to look at this case and see these youths as a threat. therefore, thinking michael dunn is reasonable in his fear of them. they're going to take a look at that forensics, whether they clinically look at the angle of the gunshots to see if that makes sense, and fundamentally how they feel about guns, self defense and stand your ground. >> so there is only one thing i would dispute here, and that is that in the many, many years that i've been doing th

joining us to talk about the jury is richard gabriel. he's a jury consultant. he worked on the o.j.on and casey anthony trials. he has a book coming out this summer called "acquittal" talking about some of those big cases. good to see you. >> good to see you too. >> today this jury is already exhibiting its diligence. it was willing to work through the weekend last week and this weekend. deliberating now four days over 20 hours. this morning the jurors had yet another set of questions for the judge. let's listen to those three questions asking the courtroom for some clarification. >> first question. is the defense of self-defense separate for each person in each count? the answer is yes. second question. are we determining if deadly force is justified against each person in each count? the answer is yes. the third question. or if we determine deadly force is justified against one person, is it justified against the others? no. self-defense and justifiable use of deadly force applies separately to each count. >> and i know this is tough. it's like reading tea leaves trying to figure