next, cynthia helms, widow of richard helms, recounts her life. she drug in england and served in world war ii, calls for introduction to the world of secret intelligence via her husband, the internal politics of the cia and the couple's time spent in tehran as richard helms served as american ambassador prior to the iranian revolution. this is about an hour. [applause] [applause] >> thank you. very kind of you, nice event you allowed us to have here. i am most grateful to you and i thank you for coming. cynthia is quite right. five years -- if you knew richard helms you didn't dare argue what was in the cards with him. what we were going to tehran i finally said to him can you cope the box? he said what box? i said a cardboard box that has been on the top shelf for years. so he opened it and the only thing and it was his silk scarf with his evening clothes. all those years i thought it was love letters. from wonderful beautiful woman that i didn't know anything about. i did not really intend to write this book. i had written a book on iran and th

richard helms. she was more than that. that was important said every human being once their own identity. we will begin with their service in world war ii. growing up on the southeast coast of england and for the millennium that part had been invaded by vikings. the people of that area were acutely aware of the nazi threat because it was in the dna that they were vulnerable to invaders. she listed in the women's royal naval service as an issue was 18. my first question is tell us why did you in less? what drives you as a teenager to become a member of the women's royal naval service? >> guest: i was sent to the west coast when the war broke out. it was 1938 with war in 1939. we were very a vulnerable. there were bombings but my parents sent me to the west coast with an elderly alkyl who was a naval officer. his son was in france when they collapsed in his other son committed suicide because he lost all of his money in the financial crisis. by live with him for about one year and he would ride his bicycle in the morning loo

at 11:00 p.m., cindy helms recounting her life as the wife of richard helms. he died in 2002. watch a couple of interviews from the university of pennsylvania. first at 1:00 p.m. eastern, we will talk to richard ellis about why government programs don't work and a blueprint for change. at 1:15 p.m. we will hear from