. >> inmate richard hernandez is looking forward to getting out of the hole after not seeing the sun eyes for a little while. i'll see it. you know, it will focus in. probably play some handball in the yard. >> the inmates who are defending themselves in court are also located in 900 max. >> i'm here in los angeles county, this particular facility, because i'm in pro per and i'm fighting my case and i'm being held to answer for a 422 pc, which is alleged terrorist threat. terrorist threat is that, you know, a statement made that is verbal. and from what i understand, it must be received from the victim as a threat. >> with the odds against them, pro per inmates thomas gleason and ronnie senegal still feel that they can represent themselves better than a public defender. >> so it's just simply being out there on the streets. the odds are against me. when police officers come through like slave catchers, you know, and literally give you cases that you have not committed and they know you haven't committed. but to gain the conviction and the actions from some of the courts are atrocious