and the unforgettable richard holbrooke. richard has many reasons why those of us here tonight applaud and remember him. he died just four days before the desperate act that the motions. i wonder what he would have made of all the actions since. i am sure he would have had a lot to say and even more that he wanted to do to promote the principles that we all cherish. these three individuals are very worthy of the awards that you have granted and this evening. what a year 2011 has been for freedom in the middle east and north africa. we have seen what may have well been the first arab revolution for democracy, then the second and the third. in him and people are demanding a transition to democracy they deserve to see delivered. syrians are refusing to relent until they can decide their own future. i want to single out someone who is here with us tonight. when our ambassador to syria was mobbed, salted, and threatened just for meeting with peaceful protesters, he put his personal safety on the line to let the syrian people know

and the indomitable, unforgettable richard holbrooke. richard has many reasons why those of us here tonight applaud and remember him. he died just like should days before that desperate act of the tunisian fruit vendor setting the arab uprisings in motion. i often wonder what richard would have made of all that has happened since. i'm sure that he would have had a lot to say and even more that he wanted to do to promote the principles that we all cherish. so these three individuals are very worthy of the award that you had granted them this evening. and what each year 2011 has been for freedom in the middle east and north africa. we have seen what may well have been the first arab revolution for democracy, then the second and third, and in yemen, people are demanding a transition to democracy that they alert to -- deserve to see delivered, and syrians are refusing to relent until they can choose to decide their own future. throughout the arab world this year, people have given each other courage. old fears have melted away and men and wom

the unquiet american richard holbrook in the world. in that clip. i'll go right there. i'm reading page 55, because like a brzezinski i check the index for my dad. and you say while his epic feud with carter's national security adviser has long been the stuff of legend, his use of the press for self-defense is less well known and you go on to write that my dad tried to get him fired or something. i don't know. do we want to talk about this feud? should we lay it out there? >> well, there are many feuds. >> i don't think there was one in the end. i saw them getting along quite well. >> yes, he was a monumental ego and a monumental personality, but also monumental achiever. and watching what you've been talking about all morning, he was a doer. he did have a conflict with your father, but worked through it. and what was amazing about him was that he got results done. he met -- there was a famous thing where he brought jessie helms to the u.n. and convinced him to vote for back dues. when we talk about nobody taking risks, reaching out ov

it is a fitting tribute to people like geraldine ferraro and richard holbrooke. they like to pose difficult questions and then pushed us to answer them. and in richard's case, that meant even following me into the ladies' room in pakistan one time. [laughter] as we live this history day-by-day, we approach these questions with a large dose of humility because many of the choices are honestly not our estimate. still, it's worth stepping back to speak directly to what is on people's mind. let me start with one question that i hear often. do we really believe that space change in the middle east and north africa is an america's interest? that is a totally fair question. after all, transitions are filled with uncertainty. they can be chaotic, and stable, even violent. and even if they succeed, they are rarely linear, quick or easy. as we saw in the balkans and again in iraq, the rivalries between the members of different religions, sects and tribes can resurface and explode. the toppling tyrants does not guarantee that democracy will follow or the will last. just ask

cable satellite corp. 2011] >> the honorees are the late geraldine ferraro, charles manatt, and richard holbrooke. secretary clinton called the recipients in trouble is is a change in the u.s. and around the world and talk about then transition underway in the middle east -- and talked about the transition underway in the middle east. >> it is now my honor to introduce our keynote speaker. tonight, i think, is a little like introducing the sky to the sun. after all, it is not like we are aware of hillary clinton's existence -- unaware of hillary clinton's existence. she is a best-selling author, a grammy award winner, a former first lady, a former senator from the great state of new york, and currently serving as a americas 67 secretary of state

and of course the indomitable, unforgettable richard holbrooke. richard has many reasons why those of us here tonight applaud and remember him. he died just four days before the desperate act of a tunisian fruit vendor said the arab uprising in motion. and i often wonder what richard would have made of all that had happened since. i am sure he would have had a lot to say and even more that he wanted to do to promote the principles that we all cherish. so these three individuals are very worthy of the award's that you have granted them this evening. and what a year 2011 has been for freedom in the middle east and north africa. we have seen what may well have been the first arab revolution for democracy, and in yemen people are demanding a transition to democracy that they deserve to see delivered and syrians are refusing to relent until they also can decide their own future. throughout the arab world this year, people have given each other courage. old fears have melted away and men and women have begun making their demands in broad daylight. they h

found the national endowment for democracy, and, of course, the indomedomeble, unforgettable, richard holbrooke. now, richard has many reasons why those of us here tonight applaud and remember him. he died just four days before the desperate act of a tunisian fruit vender set the arab uprisings in motion, and e often wonder what richard would have made all that's happened sense. i'm sure he would have had a lot to say and even more that he wanted to do to promote the principles that we all cherish, and so these three individuals are very worthy of the awards that you have granted them this evening. what a year 2011 has been for freedom in the middle east and north africa. we have seen what may well have been the first arab revolution for democracy, then the second, then the third, and in yemen, people are demanding a transition to democracy that they deserve to see delivered, and syria is refusing to relent until they, too, can decide their own future. throughout the arab world this year, people have given each other courage. old fears have melted away, and men and women have begun making their

in early 2010 under the energetic leadership of richard holbrooke, the united states put together a very large and comprehensive assistance program for pakistan. there was a big military component but also a very large economic component, education component, also fought society, which turned out to beat -- also a civil society which turned out that pakistan choked on it and did not believe the rest. i think we have shown the limits of what carrots only can do. i think there needs to be some penalties, sticks, limits to our relationship with pakistan. in my experience, most successful policies have a combination of those tools. all don't lean on one or the way on the other. the facts are true that the united states and pakistan have a great deal in common. there are things they can cooperate on but there are also point for those things diverge in which the united states should be quite plain and did make it clear there are limits to what we will have a pakistani veto over and we will act. i know what those candidates are saying. i think it is more sophisticated than that. >> gentleman in

in early 2010 under the energetic leadership of richard holbrooke, the united states put together a very large and comprehensive assistance program for pakistan. there was a big military component but also a very large economic component, education component, also fought society, which turned out to beat -- also a civil society which turned out to be too much, that pakistan choked on it and did not believe the rest. i think we have shown the limits of what carrots only can do. i think there needs to be some penalties, sticks, limits to our relationship with pakistan. in my experience, most successful policies have a combination of those tools. they don't lean on one or all the way on the other. the facts are true that the united states and pakistan have a great deal in common. there are things they can cooperate on but there are also point for those things diverge in which the united states should be quite plain and did make it clear there are limits to what we will have a pakistani veto over and we will act. i know what those candidates are saying. i think it is more sophisticated than

it's a fitting tribute to people like jerry and richard holbrooke and chuck. they liked to pose difficult questions, and then push us to answer them, and in richard's case, that meant even following me into a lady's room in pakistan one time. [laughter] as we live this history day by day, we approach these questions with a large dose of humility because many of the choices ahead are honestly not ours to make. .. at 8:00 eastern on c-span 2. >> "washington journal" continues. host: at the table, molly ball, national political reporter for the atlantic. " -- guest: thank you for having me. host: we want to get to one of your recent pieces. "religious right still lacking a champion in 2012." what is going on? guest: when you think about the evangelical community, the republican party is a key part of the base. recall how important they work? this time around, there is not a candidate that they feel that they can rally around. in a lot of ways, they are frustrated, dissatisfied. they do not like the tone of the discussion around immigration. the leaders of the chri