also with richard holbrooke, who of course had a big ego, but basically was not really interested in any fine tuning off the situation there at the time. the united states was in such a position of dictating or convincing her every other partner in the west as well. as in russia, just remember that the situation with russia was such because rational. russia was in dire straits that basically russia somehow played along in or this, it was, it was the russian foreign minister ivanov, at a time, was embarked also in the dayton accords. but who simply did not really have and big a word in all of this as did the europeans. let's get to that because as you say back then, i mean, the life expectancy falling after world bank, the happenings in russia killed millions, arguably in, in russia. but here in britain, a foreign minister was asked recently behind all this, the current tensions lies rusher. unless we do something very dramatic. this was the question us in parliament of the foreign minister said the hand of russia is at play is pu tim, behind what is going on right now? the troubles i