that is judge richard hollowell joining us for a market makers exclusive. >> when we come back, we areoing to talk about income inequality. is it as bad as we are told? some statistics just don't. >> president obama is likely to make income inequality a centerpiece of his 2014 agenda. we are almost are to your about it in his state of the union. issome measures, inequality as bad as it's ever been in take a listenill to what neil a richardson has to say. it's a great argument -- the data are persuasive. what have you found? >> while it's true mediums have fell income -- while it has fell in the past 12 years, after-tax income has had a surprising effect when you look across america. make the looking to most money in america, they saw their incomes by one third during the recession. for middle income, it's been about a 1.5% decline in for the percent, incomes actually increased to ring the recession. the united states is a good job of cushioning during the incomeons for the bottom of americans. >> and why is income inequality the biggest tagline we are hearing? is it just being used as