motion rejecting the mayor's nomination for appointment of richard johns to the historical preservation commission, seat no. 4, for a four-year term ending december 31, 2014. supervisor campos: thank you. mr. johns, good morning. welcome to the rules committee. happy new year to you. >> and to all of you. supervisor campos: please speak into the microphone. >> got it? thank you. i thought the best way to do this would be the focus on section 4.135 of the charter, describing seat number four as to be occupied by a historian meeting the professional qualifications of the secretary of the interior with specialized training, and this is important, demonstrable experience in north american bay area history. you can determine my qualifications based on what i have done. beginning with the controversy over preserving the cross on mount davidson. life -- i first investigated that cross, its history, the predecessor, the rule in the community that those crosses provide. i did that in order to raise money for the preservation of the cross. the first things the owners want to know is why should i.

supervisor avalos: i actually will be voting against the appointment of richard johns essentially on the qualifications for membership on the historic preservation committee. i believe, according to the charter, it seems pretty clear that a real historian is what is needed for that one seat, and i do not believe that, according to what i have seen, richard johns meets those qualifications. i believe you could stretch the language for the charter to indicate that he could take the seat, but i think when it comes down to the spirit of the charter amendment establishing the historic preservation commission, that we would want to put the best that we can in that seat, a historian who meets the standards that are in place in the legislation and the standards that are called for, which include someone who is seen as a historian recognized by the secretary of the interior for his professional qualifications for history or has had a real body of work that shows they have made contributions to academia or a body of work that would show he has expertise in the field he is going into in terms o

i have the pleasure of knowing and working with richard johns for nearly two decades. we met shortly after the museum for the city of san francisco was formed. we serve on the board for many years. mr. johns was selected because of his knowledge and background of the bay area in california history. we worked together on numerous endeavors, including fund- raising building organization and preserving landmarks like the mount davidson cross and historical waterfront peers and businesses. mr. johns has always been a committed, hard-working and affect a board member, officer, and leader. mr. johns has an enduring passion, as you have heard, and appreciation for san francisco history and preservation of historical assets. he has a polished, keen legal mind that is balanced with a sharp wit, a sense of humor, and common sense. all of them useful attributes when interpreting the national park standards of rehabilitation and other documents that the historic preservation commission will use as a basis for its decisions. most importantly, he appreciates the honor and responsibil

i am here to support the nomination of richard johns. i have known him since i school and particularly as president of the san francisco museum and historical society. our firm has been part of the design team working for the city of san francisco that is to be housed in the old united states meanint. i know his interest and commitment go back much further than that. he would be a worthy addition, and i hope you will act on his behalf. the seat that he is nominated for, the question is left open whether it should go to a historian and a larger sense, or the historian in the professional sense. his tenure on the museum in addition to the other experience should qualify him in the broader sense. thank you. >> i have been in the historian's seat for the last year-and-a-half and wanted to share my experience with you. as to why there are particular requirements, the hpc deals with a very specific type of expertise. there is a position for a generalist, but other seats are reserved for specifics. why would we need a historian? to local, state

with richard johns, we have a scholar with an incredible passion for san francisco. it is very hard to work in the city of san francisco and look at what truly needs to be preserved in an ongoing manner. he has had years of experience, and adjust the amount of time he has spent would truly make you a scholar of san francisco history. >> it is great to see you. i have known richard for 15 years. i have worked with him with the first husband of the brown administration. richard was everywhere and i think he had the true reached to a lot of different communities. it will make him a very accessible member of the historic preservation commission. he has made himself accessible and i think she is a living historian ha, someone looking to make the history and county of san francisco and other aspects of our history more accessible. he is qualified to do this. i sat in on the hearing when this nomination was previously considered. chair campos acknowledged that the ultimate experience he brings is qualifying period and those who are objecting really need -- brains is qualify

johns is going to do a great job. i feel very strongly that richard would be an excellent commissioner in this role and be a dynamic historian, providing a law of personal talent to the work in the preservation commission. i do recognize the presence of the action of other nominees and i respect that it appears at this point that that is what might happen in terms of this nomination continuing. supervisor campos: great. yes, just wanted to fill -- the clerk has given me a note to make it clear that the agenda items one through six contain the same clerical error. they should read historic preservation commission, not historical preservation commission. wanted to make tax address. -- i wanted to make that address. i see the point that has been raised and the point raised by supervisor duftymar. that said, even though my reading of the language is that though there may be different -- differences of opinion, i do think that this individual meets the qualifications as written. and i certainly thought that you did a nice job with the presentation. to the

richard johns comes highly respected. karl hasz has done a fantastic job. vince courtney, as mentioned earlier, would be a great addition to the puc. henry kamm, herb cohn, relocation. leona bridges, resonate and the call that we have got and show that she is a truly exceptional candidate. leslie katz for the port. these are great appointments and i find it difficult to sit and claimed that the mayor is not properly doing his job by letting us vote for interim mayor -- i understand that point. bear in mind, of the four of us, i am the only one who will not be able to participate in the interim mayor vote if it takes place in the new board. i will also be the only one nonparticipating in this particular committee. the decision that are made here. so there is a bit of hypocrisy with the argument big as we could then place that argument back on ourselves and the rules committee not doing the job presented before them. of course, also, we did schedule a hearing. [applause] i think it is something that probably should be said. obviously, i will not be in support

network nation by richard john of our faculty and master switch by tim wu of columbia law school factory. they run kind of somewhat related subjects, so another ways they're quite different books. and we're hoping that will get the two authors to disagree somewhat to make the evening more entertaining. i would say though, they agree about a few things. we'll try this out on umc if you agree about these things. they agree that neither is a technological determinant. that is in the general conversation about the internet in particular and telecommunications in general is a sense of, this telephone was invented in everything just natural frozen not. proof i'm a big internet is invented everything closer now. both authors in different ways would argue quite forcefully that the only part the story and it's also when a new mode of communication comes along, there starts to be a battle royal involving government policy. on the one hand business interests. on the other hand sites over to use my earlier metaphor, the shape of the playing field. so they both draw forceful attention to that and say

"network nation" by richard john of our faculty, and "the master switch," by tim wu of the columbia law school faculty. they're on kind of somewhat related subjects, although in other ways they're quite different books. and we're hoping that we'll get the two authors to disagree somewhat to make the evening more entertaining. i would say, though, they agree about a few things. i'll try this out on you and see if you agree that you agree about these things. they agree that neither is a technological determinant, that is in the general conversation about the internet in lahr and telecommunications in general -- in particular and tell communuations in general is a sense of, poof, the telephone is invented and everything flows from that, poof, the internet is invebted, and everything flows from that. both authors would argue quite forcefully that's only part of the story, and it's also when a new mode of communication comes along, there starts to be a battle royal involving government policy on the one hand, business interests on the other hand. and fights over, to use my earlier metaphor,

on behalf of president chiu, for the late rose santimno, for richard johnsonton, mr. john crawl, on behalf of supervisor campos for mr. jimenez. >> i want to thank everyone for your hard work in 2010. certainly this month as well as obviously the entire year we only have one more meeting of our session but i hope everyone has a very happy holiday and look forward to seeing you over the coming weeks. madam clerk, do we have any more business in front of this board? >> that concludes our business today, mr. president. >> at this time we are adjourned. preside vietor: i would like to call this meeting to order, at the meeting of the san francisco public utilities commission, december 14, 2010. thank you, mr. secretary. next item, please. secretary housh: roll call. commissioner caen is excused. madam president, the next item is the approval of the minutes from november 23, 2010, and i will call your attention to a minor amendment to clarify the intent of summer marks. -- the intent of some remarks. president vietor: may i have a motion to approve the minutes as amended? all i

>> that's at john richards' house. >> jimmy: yeah, absolutely. yeah, yeah. absolutely, man. jam it out. >> it's a great place. there's great music. there's great culture there. it's just a really great place. and we love our town. you know, we love being there. we love nashville. we love just everything about it. >> jimmy: yeah. i know you do a lot to raise money after the flood over there. >> well, you know, we do what we can do. we're musicians. and what we can do is throw a big show, you know? and we have a lot of friends. a lot of friends showed up and played. sandra bullock showed up. you know, a lot of musicians played. you know, all night, my band played songs for everybody that showed up. my band must've played 50 songs that night. >> jimmy: that's so fun. >> it was a lot of fun. i mean, what we did was we played music. the people who live there bought the tickets. they put the money in. they bought the tickets. they showed up at the show. they had a great time and a lot of money went to help a lot of good people. >> jimmy: country music performers are very good to t

george washington, president and deputy from virginia, delaware, george read, gunning bedford, john dickinson, richard bassett, jacob broom maryland, james mchenry, daniel of st. thomas jenifer, daniel carroll virginia, john blair, james madison, jr. . mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. mcclintock. mr. mcclintock: north carolina -- william blount, richard dobbs spaight, hugh williamson south carolina - john rutledge, charles cotesworth pinckney, charles pinckney, pierce butler georgia -- william few, abraham baldwin mr. goodlatte: now yield to the gentleman from washington, mr. mcdermott. mr. mcdermott: new hampshire -- john langdon, nicholas gilman massachusetts -- nathaniel gorham, rufus king connecticut -- william samuel johnson, roger sherman new york -- alexander hamilton mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from kansas, kansas. >>new jersey -- will livingston, david brearley, william paterson, jonathan dayton pennsylvania -- benjamin franklin, thomas mifflin, robert morris, george clymer, thomas fitzsimons, jared ingersoll, james wilson, gouverneur morris . -- govern

george washington, president and deputy from virginia, delaware, george read, gunning bedford, john dickinson, richard bassett, jacob broom maryland, james mchenry, daniel of st. thomas jenifer, daniel carroll virginia, john blair, james madison, jr. . mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. mcclintock. mr. mcclintock: north carolina -- william blount, richard dobbs spaight, hugh williamson south carolina - john rutledge, charles cotesworth pinckney, charles pinckney, pierce butler georgia -- william few, abraham baldwin mr. goodlatte: now yield to the gentleman from washington, mr. mcdermott. mr. mcdermott: new hampshire -- john langdon, nicholas gilman massachusetts -- nathaniel gorham, rufus king connecticut -- william samuel johnson, roger sherman new york -- alexander hamilton mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from kansas, kansas. >>new jersey -- will livingston, david brearley, william paterson, jonathan dayton pennsylvania -- benjamin franklin, thomas mifflin, robert morris, george clymer, thomas fitzsimons, jared ingersoll, james wilson, gouverneur morris . -- govern

proud to say that later this week claire mccaskill from missouri will be joining me, along with richard burr, johnccain, senator alexander, and senator isakson in something called the cap act. and what it does is take us over a 10-year period from where we are in spending at the federal government level as a percentage of our country's economy, the cross domestic product, taking us at where we are today, 24%, down to the four-year average which we've had in this country, as i mentioned, for 40 years of 20.6%. this is something that puts in place a construct or a straitjacket on congress that really allows us over time to take methodical, thoughtful approach to spending at the federal level, but to actually have to do it. in this -- in this bill, which we also offered as an amendment during the lame-duck session is now a stand alone bill, again, we'll be offering it a little bit later this week. we hope to have additional cosponsors from both sides of the aisle. but what it would do is take us from where we are today down to that average. and if congress did not act responsibly, then o.m.b. would h

john hanley from local 798. the firefighters, and dr. richard kenyon, who added one of our most important prongs' -- nutrition -- to the 10-year plan. that was truly innovative. [applause] so it is my great pleasure that so many members of the original 10-year plan are here. and of course, the federal homeless czar under george bush, who has now gotten project homeless connect in over 50 states, and i think it is over 230 cities in the united states along with the 10-year plan, was also a member of that original committee. we are here today -- and judith is going to help me -- this is one of the most incredible human beings, and she has been in charge for six years doing one hell of a job taking care of the four -- the poor. >> thank you. today, we are going to begin with a beginning and vacation. can i get an acknowledgment for the jewish relations community council and the consortium of jewish community groups that are here today? if you could please stand, let's give you a round of applause. >> good morning. are you all very comfortable? good

joining me to discuss it is richard dieter executive director of the death penalty information center and from oregon josh marquis district attorney of clatsop county oregon john mona thank you both for joining me and now richard i want to start with you because a man was just released after thirty years in prison after being wrongly convicted i mean does that tell you that there are fundamental flaws that our justice system is broken in some way this is incredible i mean in this case goes back to the one nine hundred seventy s. and since the one nine hundred seventy s. texas has executed over four hundred fifty people so you can imagine that some of those people were probably innocent as well and that's the that's the fundamental problem with this kind of new evidence with the death penalty nothing can be undone although that's right here this man who was released from prison but just recently in texas there was the case of claude jones a man who was put to death all the evidence of a single hair and it turned out that the hair did not belong to him we just found out there in fact belonged to the victim but so in that case josh i mean should we even have a de

john thrasher, linda, sue, guam, peter, donna, jesus torres, hawaii, proxy, thank you, jonah. i hope the next secretary does better with these names that i do. idaho, norm, illinois, richard

george washington, president and deputy from virginia, delaware, george read, gunning bedford, john dickinson, richard bassett, jacob broom maryland, james mchenry, daniel of st. thomas jenifer, daniel carroll virginia, john blair, james madison, jr. . mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. mcclintock. mr. mcclintock: north carolina -- william blount, richard dobbs spaight, hugh williamson south carolina - john rutledge, charles cotesworth pinckney, charles pinckney, pierce butler georgia -- william few, abraham baldwin mr. goodlatte: now yield to the gentleman from washington, mr. mcdermott. mr. mcdermott: new hampshire -- john langdon, nicholas gilman massachusetts -- nathaniel gorham, rufus king connecticut -- william samuel johnson, roger sherman new york -- alexander hamilton mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from kansas, kansas. >>new jersey -- will livingston, david brearley, william paterson, jonathan dayton pennsylvania -- benjamin franklin, thomas mifflin, robert morris, george clymer, thomas fitzsimons, jared ingersoll, james wilson, gouverneur morris . -- govern

george washington, present and deputy from virginia, delaware, george read, gunning bedford, john dickinson, richard bassett, jacob broom maryland, james mchenry, daniel of st. thomas jenifer, daniel carroll virginia, john blair, james madison, jr. . mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. mcclintock. mr. mcclintock: north carolina -- william blount, richard dobbs spaight, hugh williamson south carolina - john rutledge, charles cotesworth pinckney, charles pincey, pierce butler georgia -- william few, abraham baldwin mr. goodlatte: now yield to the gentleman from washington, mr. mcdermott. mr. mcdermott: new hampshire -- john langdon, nicholas gilman massachusetts -- nathaniel gorham, rufus king connecticut -- william samuel johnson, roger sherman new york -- alexander hamilton mr. goodlatte: i yield to the gentleman from kansas, kansas. >>new jersey -- will livingston, david brearley, william paterson, jonathan dayton pennsylvania -- benjamin franklin, thomas mifflin, robert morris, george clymer, thomas fitzsimons, jared ingersoll, james wilson, gouverneur morris . -- governor

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