i'm here with richard lane, lay catholic evangelist, richard lane ministries.com.hard, we are talking about this how to know god is speaking to you, many catholics received the sacrament, you talk about the sacraments being the nuclear bomb that has been having fruit in your life. when we receive that sack ra men. that's the holy spirit. people forget to open that up. in the catholic church since 1967, there has been the charismatic renewal, which is the outpouring, baptism of the holy spirit. talk about what that really means, how people can open that up. >> it is. >> that's exactly where i was going. it started 2000 years ago, with these 120 catholic saints, locked in an upper room. holy spirit came down, descended upon them, and gave them the fire to run out, and start proclaiming the gospel. they were speaking in tongues and prophesying, laying on of hands and healing and we lost that way. i don't know why. when we go to confirmation, what we should be seeing in our 8th graders is some very powerful manifestations. we should not be surprised in other words. >>