what it's all about and i think that's the point of the film sue is just to show that not only richard lawrence but there's a lot of people out there speaking out again about that and trying to get people to open their minds and not judge atheists based on these kind of knee jerk reactions of just people of the same ideas not to beg with the leavers are supposed to be the giving and loving you don't hate atheists do you oh absolutely has made affect i used to be one of those in college i had the record for converting christians atheism and a college campus so i was i was raised in a christian household and i grew out of it and then. i was a devout i was a devout atheist and then when i later on in school i had a counter with what i called love beauty i didn't call it god because i didn't believe in god but the presence was so profound and so real that it altered my character and and now i can use the word god again but it's not the same god that you read about in the bible the koran is not a superman in the sky you know there's a presence of love and beauty and intelligence so those who are bel

lawrence? >> richard, thank you. >>> david, the situation here seems to be that the americans in these situations are in greater risk because some other countries that have people over there in these kinds of risks have been paying ransoms to get them out. >> yes. the problem is this raid that the administration announced today was an effort to free these americans but there is no coherent strategy from the united states and its allies about how to respond to a growing number of kidnappings. there were french and spanish journalists held with james foley. they got ransomed. they're home, they're alive and their needs to be a unified approach. what's going on now with america not paying and others paying is not working. >> the millions paid in ransom helps finance what the islamic state is trying to do. >> one of the journalists kidnapped and transferred between different groups was an unfortunate part, a victim of a marketplace that's developed in kidnapping these people. you see a market growing. you see

lawrence ran a column. these were well-known people that really liked richard nixon. there were others out to get him including robert novak who watches went to a memorial service for. -- who i want to a memorial service for. i think novak was the best political reporter angie made no apologies about the fact that he did not like nixon. >> did he ever like nixon? >> i don't think he ever really liked nixon, no. i don't think he ever got to know him and nixon left office. .ovak did come around >> i'm going to go to a story about the press -- not so much about the press as it is about you. richard amberg. was ahard h. amberg democrat when i got out there. amberg had come from this syracuse paper. he was one of those fellows that knew how to move around, very powerful turf figures, very effective publishers. he had gotten almost the jewel in the crown. circulation.00 in it went under in 1985. >> the story wanted to tell starts out on page 101. the rest of us were not yourving any moratorium -- go on to tell the story about a column that was written that he signed under t