our guest host has been richard lefrak of lefrak organization. thank you all for being here. with you. >> okay. >> and it's a question i asked richard. when you talk about -- when people talk about the path to tax reform, or the path to infrastructure, what is the path as you see it, given the commotion and the headlines that we talk about daily? >> yeah. i think from a business perspective, i think the path is one that we must make. and we're going to have to figure out how to make some compromises around the various issues we need to get done. we do need to get the tax reform done from a standpoint of the competitiveness. at the same time, infrastructure is very, very important relative to the needs that we've fallen apart as a country from the infrastructure. from our perspective i think there's going to have to be some tradeoffs and going after some more revenue. broaden that revenue base, and try to get a competitive tax rate and put the money back into the future. i think for the first time we've been living off our parents' infrastructure investment and we need to get