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movement towards acting but some lawmakers have attempted to have sway on the issue like republican richard lugar a member of the senate foreign relations committee quest called in the bomb had to respect the act the president did not seek a ration of war began with. nor really has there been much discussion of the war powers act defending his position obama has slipped into double speak saying us but some patient has entailed a non-kinetic support only and that nato was ultimately in charge of the mission all elements that did not make up for the fact that the so to speak nato led mission will have cost the u.s. seven hundred fifty million dollars by the end of september many white house officials say u.s. involvement in libya is to. small scale to the last threshold well even if obama were to go to congress so the most likely have a little trouble securing its backing this would land him with yet another war on his watch and expose his foreign policy and by partisan wrangling muscle charnel for cost are. ok i do it to david first in denver before we talk about a policy employer impatiens always

. >> woodruff: similar skepticism came from indiana senator richard lugar, the committee's ranking republican. >> despite ten years of investment and attempts to better understand the culture and the region's actors, we remain in a cycle that produces relative progress but fails to deliver a secure political or military resolution. in afghanistan, measuring success according to relative progress has very little meaning. >> woodruff: the doubts were fed by a report from the committee's democratic staff. after a two-year review, it concluded that: the report suggested, in fact, that u.s. aid is only encouraging afghan dependency and corruption. the renewed discussion over progress in afghanistan comes at the same time as the debate over how quickly to begin withdrawing 100,000 u.s. troops. the pullout is scheduled to begin next month, although president obama has not given any firm numbers. this past monday, on abc news, defense secretary robert gates warned against a "premature" move. >> what i have said is that it is important, as we did in iraq, to have a strategy behind the numbers, not to

session, and some of the opening statements from senator john kerry, and the ranking republican, richard lugar. >> we are here to examine an issue that we have been debating since it was passed. this has been debated since the 1970's. certainly, it has been debated over the course of the last weeks with respect to the war powers resolution, and its role in america's use of force in of libya. i want to thank all of my colleagues for the very constructive manner in which we have conducted the discussion over these past weeks. this afternoon, the committee will meet again, and i might ask all the members that are here, as you run into other members, if we could begin that meeting punctually. if there is a fair amount of important business we want to consider as expeditiously as possible, and that is with respect to the proposed resolution regarding the limited operations in support of the nato mission in libya. it is my personal, firm belief that america's values and interests compelled us to join other nations in establishing a no-fly zone over libya. by keeping gaddafi. the most potent weapons