that brings me back to senator richard lugar and senator nunn of georgia. they got interested in one of the most arcane issues possible. is russia dismantling the soviet union chemical and nuclear weapons? if not, how can we help them do it? how can we get congress to give money to them to do it? how can we track that is being done? in retrospect, one of the more productive things congress ever did on an issue like that and what senator lugar could be in a difficult fight for reelection is in part because of the good work he has done in foreign policy. he is rapidly rebuilding ties back home. the idea of people who have excelled in foreign policy somehow getting burned for it is one of the many factors that is the motivating -- demotivating. how do you build expertise in foreign policy without time or trouble? how many members actually travel? i think the press can make credit -- take credit for making travel look like a bad thing. we were the ones to convince people travel was a junket, wasting time. tip o'neill had a famous outing to the philippines with

it brings back to senator richard lugar and sam nunn. who together got interested in one of the most arcane issues possible. is the soviet union actually dismantling? is russia dismantling the soviet union's chemical and nuclear weapons? if not? how can we help them do it? how can we get congress to give money to them to do it and track that it is being done? probably in retrospect, one of the more productive things that the congress ever did on an issue like that, and yet, senator richard lugar could well be in a very difficult fight for reelection in part because of the identification of the good work he has done in foreign policy. so he is rapidly rebuilding ties back home. so this idea of people who have excelled in foreign policy somehow getting burned for it is one of the many factors that is a de-motivating factor. how you build expertise without time, which they no longer have to and without travel? here again, the press can take credit for making travel look like a bad thing. we were the ones that convince people that travel is

that brings me back to senator richard lugar and senator nunn of georgia.arcane issues possible. is russia dismantling the soviet union chemical and nuclear weapons? if not, how can we help them do it? how can we get congress to give money to them to do it? how can we track that is being done? in retrospect, one of the more productive things congress ever did on an issue like that and what senator lugar could be in a difficult fight for reelection is in part because of the good work he has done in foreign policy. he is rapidly rebuilding ties back home. the idea of people who have excelled in foreign policy somehow getting burned for it is one of the many factors that is the motivating -- demotivating. how do you build expertise in foreign policy without time or trouble? -- travel? how many members actually travel? i think the press can make credit -- take credit for making travel look like a bad thing. we were the ones to convince people travel was a junket, wasting time. i admit some of these -- tip o'neill had a famous outing to the philippines with lots

senator richard lugar and ms. deb lugar.ator lugar is the ranking republican on the foreign affairs, foreign relations committee. mr. chris courts and mr. andrew courts. mr. peter krause and mrs. lisa krause. senator max baucus and miss melody haynes. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] ambassador armalon revere and philip revere. the honorable timothy geithner and mrs. geithner. ms. carla a. robinson mr. guy -- [inaudible conversations] mr. henry h. kang and ms. cassie hearn mihalik. [inaudible conversations] the honorable ann stock and mr. stewart c. stolt. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] ms. janelle monet and mr. nathaniel irvin. janelle monet is one of the performers this evening at the white house, following the white house state dinner. the other performers will be be on trio from seoul korea who were educated at juilliard in new york. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] mrs. janet berman. [

both richard lugar, from indiana and orrin hatch, they have a lot of the tea party very mad at them. old bull senate republicans. >> heather: not just voters being fickle or angry again and wanting to oust them, it is also redistricting. >> absolutely. redistricting is going to reconfigure the map. making it harder for some incumbents to run. it makes it difficult for challengers right now to know where they are running. many states haven't finished redistricting. i think in the end, the tea party is not going to lose a lot ofç is members that it elected in 2010. a, because most have stood firm on the clear principles they ran on. secondly, it is very difficult to defeat an incumbent. i do think if there are tea party people who vote for higher taxes and almost all have signed the no new taxes pledge that would be a breach of public faith that would give them problems. >> heather: before we talked about the tea party. now we are talking about occupy wall street. what if any influence do you think occupy wall street will have? >> clearly, the left wing has decided they need some kind

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let me add, john kerry has had a great partner in all of this, senator richard lugar. there were times when he had to run off an appointment and he was comfortable heading -- giving the gavel to richard lugar. more commonly, you find the chairman and the ranking member actually wanting to throw the gavel at each other. the last thing that i will note about foreign relations committee and his approach is that he wanted to make it clear, it is not center to the chairman to the extent this is possible. his personal experience has been very instructive. he has worked with contemporaries but spend most of his career in the third or fourth position, and this can be frustrating. when he got the gavel he thought about getting the members of the subcommittee engaged, to help barbara boxer work on women's issues. and he reached out to new members, and he empowered them to really lead on issues through the subcommittee. he knows the committee only succeeds if members on both sides get a real value for being on it, because it is not a committee that wins you a lot of votes back ho

that brings me back to senator richard lugar and senator nunn of georgia. they got interested in one of the most arcane issues possible. is russia dismantling the soviet union chemical and nuclear weapons? if not, how can we help them do it? how can we get congress to give money to them to do it? how can we track that is being done? in retrospect, one of the more productive things congress ever did on an issue like that and what senator lugar could be in a difficult fight for reelection is in part because of the good work he has done in foreign policy. he is rapidly rebuilding ties back home. the idea of people who have excelled in foreign policy somehow getting burned for it is one of the many factors that is the motivating -- demotivating. how do you build expertise in foreign policy without time or trouble? how many members actually travel? i think the press can make credit -- take credit for making travel look like a bad thing. we were the ones to convince people travel was a junket, wasting time. tip o'neill had a famous outing to the philippines with

senator sununu alluded to this but john kerry added great partner in richard lugar. he had to run off to other appointments and wasn't comfortable and was comfortable handling the gavel to senator lugar. more commonly on other committees you find the chairman and ranking member wanting to throw the gavel at one another. the last thing i will note about the foreign relations committee and the senator's approach to is he wanted to make it clear it is not a chairmancentric committee. what i mean by that, his personal experience has been instructive. he had been working on these issues but with contemporaries like joe biden and chris dodd ahead of him in seniority. he spent most of his career in the third or fourth position and that can be frustrating. when he got the gavel he thought about how to reinvigorate the subcommittee and power committee members so they felt engage and created a new subcommittee for senator parter to pursue her passion and women's issues. he reached out to new members like christians -- chris coons his passion is africa. the only succeed if membe

which brings me back to senator richard lugar of indiana and sam nunn of georgia. who, together, got interested in one of the most arcane issues of possible. is the soviet union actually dismantling come is russia dismantling the soviet union chemical and nuclear weapons. and if not, how can we help them do it. how can we get congress to give money to them to do it? how to attract it is being done? will and probably in retrospect, one of the more productive things that the congress ever did on an issue like that, and yet senator lugar could will be in a very difficult fight for reelection in part because of the identification and of the good work he's done in foreign policy. so he is rapidly rebuilding ties back home. so this idea of people who have excelled in foreign policy, somehow getting burned for it, is one of the many factors that is a the motivating factor. so how to build expertise in foreign policy without time, which they no longer have, and without travel, which is another question i'd like to know, how many members actually travel. the press can take