i know it seems more immediate that richard m. daleywould because there's a shiny beam blocks from your spent the legacy can be positive or negative. i think in terms of sort of the size of the legacy richard j. daley was sort of the last of the big city bosses like they don't make them like that anymore. i personally am not huge fan of the person mayor daley i think he did a good job between 1955-1963. i would give him an a. between 19 sector and i can send six i did a horrible job. i would give him an f. i think the first mayor daley had a very large and very controversial legacy. i think it's sunk in its two early in history to say. but in the book i tried to tell the whole story so people can decide for themselves. >> walter, what about you? you knew them both. you are a child of the city come of this area. what about the legacy of the student? >> i think as society grows all little in age coming in a problem in picking politicians of the past begins to disappear in our focus, that the legacies change. we don't know as much, i do be

fifty years in chicago tv news," and keith koeneman, author of "first son: the biography of richard m. daley," talk about their books. this event was part of the 2013 "chicago tribune" printer's row lit fest it. >> walter, what compelled you or who compelled you to tell, most of the people on television have made so much money that they can just go up and do nothing. you write this book for money, he wasn't always was in television o o